On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:04:58 -0600
Dave Johansen <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 21:59:55 -0600
> > Dave Johansen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >  
> > > I agree that how to handle SCLs can get really mess really fast,
> > > but a lot of projects are jumping on the "modern C++" bandwagon
> > > and allows devtoolset is low risk, easy to do and enables a lot of
> > > packages to be built with EPEL that otherwise wouldn't be.  
> >
> > It would be low risk if that was the only SCL in the repo.
> > My understanding is that they are all there in the one repo, so if
> > we enable that, everyone could start using anything thats in there.
> >  
> 
> They're each in their own repo and I would propose adding devtoolset
> only in repos used by mock during build time.

Oh? thats good... I was understanding that they were all in a scl
repo/channel. 

> Here's one proposal:
> 1) Add version X of devtoolset only in repos used by mock
> 2) N months (maybe 6?) before version X is EOLed, make version X+1 (or
> whatever the latest is) available in a buildroot override (or
> something similar) for testing
> 3) Rebuild all packages that use devtoolset using version X+1 and make
> available for testing
> 4) After testing period (maybe 1 month? or 3 months?), upgrade to
> version X+1 and move all rebuilt packages from testing repos to main
> repos
> 
> Or here's another option:
> 1) Add all non-EOLed versions of devtoolset only in repos used by mock
> 2) N months (at least 6) before version X is EOLed require that it be
> rebuilt with a newer version of devtoolset
> 3) If it's not rebuilt before the EOL happens, then retire the package
> 
> I like the second option better, because it's easier to
> setup/maintain from a mock/koji perspective, provides flexibility and
> doesn't force a mass rebuild/test every 12-18 months when a
> devtoolset is retired (their life cycle is 2 years). However, it also
> means that the update is decentralized and depends on maintainers
> rather an an automated system.

Right. I would prefer the second one too, but we would still need some
automated detection that the packages no longer build. 

kevin

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