HHm,
Philosophy, together with shamanism and Hayoka comedians, is a calling. One 
does not elect or study 
to become a philosopher. It's all about how our environment affects us. And of 
course there's not a 
thing around but has its bias = individuality = specialty. Contradict me if you 
can. Comedians 
expose us to social fictions and philosophers comment on how they're made to 
work.

adrian


Ebed wrote:
> I think we could argue that philosophy is of first importance, period.
> This is true whether we are talking about an individual, a sub-
> culture, a culture, or the masses in general. It's not sufficient to
> speak of the "current state" of philosophy without taking a look at
> the history of thought that got us here.
> 
> If we look at said history, we find patterns which affect our thinking
> whether we realize it or not. We need to realize that "thought," used
> here in a broad stroke definition, since Plato (and arguably for all
> human history) has always originated from philosophers. It's paramount
> to remember that even though there is now a "school" named Philosophy,
> philosophers have always existed as the "thinkers." So thoughts,
> ideas, theories, originate from the thinkers, but never stay here. The
> general rule is that ideas are transmitted from Philosophy down
> through the other medias. It goes something like Philosophy, Art,
> Music, Pop Culture. This last part is the "masses." Remember that the
> transmission takes years. A good example of this, is the transmission
> of Existentialism. (Again, in generalized terms).
> 
> Forgive me for my convulsion. I lack the eloquence other posters seem
> to brim with. My point is simply that nothing is more practical than
> philosophy. If I, or you, or anybody, leaves their thoughts
> unexamined, I, you, they will by extension use only the logic and
> reason that their culture gives them. In Western Culture, that means
> that a person thinking with unexamined thoughts, will be using they
> logic and reasoning (or lack of) of the philosophers that came 60-100
> years before them. And in 30-60 years, the masses will be thinking
> using the logic and reasoning of current philosophers. So on a very
> personal, real level, Philosophy is practical.
> 
> There is one other thing I'd like to submit to your critique. I think
> we do ourselves a disservice when we don't talk about presuppositions.
> We all have them, and yet so often we don't deal with them properly,
> and tragically sometimes continue thinking as if they weren't there to
> begin with. This becomes especially important when we wish to discuss
> the practicality of either a philosophy, or Philosophy in general.
> Remember that no matter how removed Philosophy as an institution seems
> to be, it can never escape being personally relevant and practical,
> because in practice it's always done by an individual (or group of
> individuals).
> 
> More to say, but we can save that for another discussion.
> 
> On Nov 4, 12:01 am, Greg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello Chazwin
>> thanks a lot for the great enlightement. your post is great, awesome.
>> It offered me a perspective that I did not have about philosophy. Yes
>> I have my reservations
>> about the current state of philosophy, but your point of view is
>> instructive, it has helped me get a broader view on the subject. I
>> still have questions on why the relevance of philosophy to the masses,
>> since by nature it excludes the majority through the use of vague and
>> idealistic themes and the like.
>>
>> My heart goes out to you on your current situation, Your great
>> attitude and positive perspective to such an experience leaves me to
>> one conclusion.
>> You are a great men. I trust in all confidence that you will get
>> through this. I have an uncle who was diagnised with cancer, and he is
>> a survivor. One thing I noticed about him that I have noticed also in
>> you that was critical to him going through the whole ordeal was his
>> great attitude and realism.
>>
>> Be blessed and stay blessed.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Greg
>>
>


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