Nice, And yes, philosophy does repeat itself, even in changing times. I turned out to be a philosopher, a comic one, much against any intention
adrian KenB wrote: > I did! I chose to study Philosophy as my first degree when I was 18 > years old. After following developments as a hobby during my working > life I went back and took a Master's degree in Philosophy when I > retired. It helps a lot to have the training for the discipline and > to know that most of your "original" thoughts have been had by other > people generations ago. > > On Dec 15, 4:24 am, adrian <[email protected]> wrote: >> HHm, >> Philosophy, together with shamanism and Hayoka comedians, is a calling. One >> does not elect or study >> to become a philosopher. It's all about how our environment affects us. And >> of course there's not a >> thing around but has its bias = individuality = specialty. Contradict me if >> you can. Comedians >> expose us to social fictions and philosophers comment on how they're made to >> work. >> >> adrian >> >> >> >> Ebed wrote: >>> I think we could argue that philosophy is of first importance, period. >>> This is true whether we are talking about an individual, a sub- >>> culture, a culture, or the masses in general. It's not sufficient to >>> speak of the "current state" of philosophy without taking a look at >>> the history of thought that got us here. >>> If we look at said history, we find patterns which affect our thinking >>> whether we realize it or not. We need to realize that "thought," used >>> here in a broad stroke definition, since Plato (and arguably for all >>> human history) has always originated from philosophers. It's paramount >>> to remember that even though there is now a "school" named Philosophy, >>> philosophers have always existed as the "thinkers." So thoughts, >>> ideas, theories, originate from the thinkers, but never stay here. The >>> general rule is that ideas are transmitted from Philosophy down >>> through the other medias. It goes something like Philosophy, Art, >>> Music, Pop Culture. This last part is the "masses." Remember that the >>> transmission takes years. A good example of this, is the transmission >>> of Existentialism. (Again, in generalized terms). >>> Forgive me for my convulsion. I lack the eloquence other posters seem >>> to brim with. My point is simply that nothing is more practical than >>> philosophy. If I, or you, or anybody, leaves their thoughts >>> unexamined, I, you, they will by extension use only the logic and >>> reason that their culture gives them. In Western Culture, that means >>> that a person thinking with unexamined thoughts, will be using they >>> logic and reasoning (or lack of) of the philosophers that came 60-100 >>> years before them. And in 30-60 years, the masses will be thinking >>> using the logic and reasoning of current philosophers. So on a very >>> personal, real level, Philosophy is practical. >>> There is one other thing I'd like to submit to your critique. I think >>> we do ourselves a disservice when we don't talk about presuppositions. >>> We all have them, and yet so often we don't deal with them properly, >>> and tragically sometimes continue thinking as if they weren't there to >>> begin with. This becomes especially important when we wish to discuss >>> the practicality of either a philosophy, or Philosophy in general. >>> Remember that no matter how removed Philosophy as an institution seems >>> to be, it can never escape being personally relevant and practical, >>> because in practice it's always done by an individual (or group of >>> individuals). >>> More to say, but we can save that for another discussion. >>> On Nov 4, 12:01 am, Greg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hello Chazwin >>>> thanks a lot for the great enlightement. your post is great, awesome. >>>> It offered me a perspective that I did not have about philosophy. Yes >>>> I have my reservations >>>> about the current state of philosophy, but your point of view is >>>> instructive, it has helped me get a broader view on the subject. I >>>> still have questions on why the relevance of philosophy to the masses, >>>> since by nature it excludes the majority through the use of vague and >>>> idealistic themes and the like. >>>> My heart goes out to you on your current situation, Your great >>>> attitude and positive perspective to such an experience leaves me to >>>> one conclusion. >>>> You are a great men. I trust in all confidence that you will get >>>> through this. I have an uncle who was diagnised with cancer, and he is >>>> a survivor. One thing I noticed about him that I have noticed also in >>>> you that was critical to him going through the whole ordeal was his >>>> great attitude and realism. >>>> Be blessed and stay blessed. >>>> Regards >>>> Greg- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. 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