Hi orn

Nice, I love proofs of God, not those too scientific :-) but those
from non believers as this was the case

I dont like of course all those boring proofs of not existence of god.

Whatever.

What I consider yes a piece of talk is Abraham telling his wife that
God said to him in private,  to lie down with Hagar so to conceive an
heir :-)

And now, some 6000 years away (or million, who cares ) persons blow
themselves, trying to kill the rest because that promise

heyy I`m not joking, holy war is just warming up



On 5 nov, 18:05, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> *** chuckles***
>
> And, since the very term “Ornitologicum” could be interpreted as an ad
> hominem … implying I’m for the birds….;-), I thought I’d add a few
> more proofs for god:
>
> http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm
>
> On Nov 5, 11:30 am, einseele <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Argumentum Ornitologicum
>
> > I close my eyes and so I see a flock of birds. The vision elapses a
> > second, may be less; I don´t know how many birds I saw. Was the number
> > of birds definite or indefinite? The problem involves the existence of
> > God. If God exists, the number is definite, because God knows how many
> > birds I did saw. If God does not exist, the number is indefinite,
> > because no one could have that counted. At any rate I saw less than
> > ten birds (let´s say) and more than one, but I  did not see nine,
> > eight, seven, six, five, four, three or two birds. I saw a number
> > between ten and one, which is not nine , eight, seven, six, five, and
> > so on. That integer is inconceivable. Therfore, God exists.
>
> > On 5 nov, 11:34, socratus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > God and Consciousness.
>
> > > Mr. ‘FF ’ wrote:
>
> > > ‘ There is only one place where "God" has been
> > >  demonstrated, even proven to exist - in human brains.’
> > > === .
> > > God and Consciousness.
>
> > > It seems you are right saying: ‘There is only one place
> > > where "God" has been demonstrated, even proven
> > >  to exist - in human brains.’
> > >  Why? Because if God exist, HE /SHE/ IT must be
> > >  in every place it means in human brains too.
> > >  Question: is it possible to prove this ?
> > >  I will try.
> > > Our brain works on dualistic basis: usually consciousness
> > > (logically)  and rarely unconsciousness ( at first it seems
> > >  illogically but at last it shows as very wise act) .
> > > In his book ‘ The Holographic Universe’  Michael Talbot
> > >  on the page 160 explained this situation in such way:
> > > ‘ Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may not be
> > >  the brain that produce consciousness, but rather consciousness
> > >  that creates the appearance of the brain -  . .  . .’
> > > But as the ‘Bhagavad Gita’ says:
> > > Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form.
> > > They do not know My transcendental nature and
> > >  My supreme dominion over all that be.
> > >  / Chapter  9. Text 11./
> > > ========== . .
> > > Best wishes.
> > > Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.
>
> > >http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=23624&st=15http://www.ph...
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