On Nov 11, 10:35 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Foucault would no doubt have gleaned his BA by using those buses on
> which French radicals gave out course credits saying the credits are
> real but the university imaginary. In my class I would have responded
> by offering you the MA there and then as it's so damned obvious we
> never fail anyone.
Okay let us accept that F might have got his BA on the basis that they
fail no one these days. I was wrong. However, given the state of the
establishment's grip on the balls of free-thinking and radical, new
and novel ideas F would not now have been given a position of power
inside a university. Neither would Chomsky or any thinker whose urge
it might be to refrain from supporting the status quo.
The top rung of the university ladder is moribund, ossified and its
noses are brown - by sniffing the gravy train.
You would be able to rejoin the course at any time
> by ripping up the gleaming certificate, an interesting admission
> procedure! Nominal would probably find it harder to get banned from a
> British university MA than from 'alt.twatcuntdiscourse'.
> ME is a much sadder place without you Chaz. Given the increase in
> godswank since you were chucked it's clear you were the best moderator
> in the place, working by stealth and cudgel.
Thanks. But sometimes you just need to let rip. I also managed to get
busted out of alt. atheists and freethinkers too - by a stupid bitch
called 'Trance Gemini" on a "debate" concerning the death penalty.
Obviously freethinking is not the same as free speech.
> Must be good to have a few critical minds about you though mate?
> Having taught the shit, at least as 'research methods', I have to say
> the academic well is dry. Your analysis above of the current idiots
> in government is far better than we could manage held down by academic
> pretensions. Something in the crap does work though Chaz, at least for
> the few who don't just toss off the tutors for good marks. I like to
> think I didn't ask for that, but one or two did remind me that I sort
> of taught them strategies of working out what the hidden agendas were,
> and consequently that they hadn't tossed me off in order to do so.
I am in a bit of a dilemma at the moment. I had every intention of
finding an interesting topic for a thesis whilst on my MA, but have
been shocked by how 'establishment' most of the tutors are in the
Dept, led by a sever Scandinavian who hob nobs with Divinity
Professors as they re-write the Scottish Enlightenment to serve the
status quo.
Right now Foucault seems attractive because he seems to realise that
history is not a seemless ribbon of learning and light but has
irruptions and breaks. It can be understood by power relations,
exploitations and conflicts.
My dilemma is that I do not think they are ready to allow for radical
re-rhinking of their precious cosy topic. It is early says though and
I am still hoping they might be better than they look.
>
> On 10 Nov, 18:07, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah I followed you recommendation to go there - thanks.
> > I've been busy telling idiot Americans the difference between a rights
> > based approach to health and they respond by participating in their
> > own exploitation by calling public medicine "socialist"
> > Blimey - banned?
> > I know it is moderated but you have to go the extra mile to get
> > banned.
>
> > On Nov 10, 4:07 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Actually I have been posting a lot on alt.philosphy, atheism vs
> > > christianity and Political Forum..../Chaz
>
> > > Political Forum?.... the one that I suggested to you a while
> > > back?..... Hell, Chaz, I got "banned" from there , myself, not too
> > > long ago. Damned their "moderators" to an eternity in hell with their
> > > heads up their asses and with shit for brains... relegated them to
> > > Nominal9"s Censorship Hall of Shame.... maybe you shouildn't mention
> > > that you know me, there.... if you like the place...
> > > nominal 9
>
> > > On Nov 9, 2:18 pm, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Actually I have been posting a lot on alt.philosphy, atheism vs
> > > > christianity and Political Forum.
> > > > The activity on this NG is much less so don't often visit.
>
> > > > On Nov 8, 4:51 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Nice to see you posting again chaz!!
>
> > > > > On Nov 7, 10:04 am, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > For me this event seems to represent the passing of something
> > > > > > greater.
> > > > > > His generation of Frenchmen and those that followed him such as
> > > > > > Derrida, Foucault, and others.
> > > > > > In the post war period France was seized by an anti-authoritarian
> > > > > > zeal
> > > > > > that is wonderfully expressed by Derrida's concept of the tyranny of
> > > > > > the text, and an extreme reaction to the sort of logical positivist
> > > > > > certainty that had justified the extreme ideologies of the early
> > > > > > part
> > > > > > of the century that had enslaved the earth and occupied France.
> > > > > > This in turn informed the post-structualist and post-modern
> > > > > > approaches
> > > > > > to social theory.
> > > > > > But what of now. Social theory is now emasculated by feminism, but
> > > > > > worst by toleration and consensus.
> > > > > > Any attempts at a radical approach has been muted by the tyranny of
> > > > > > inclusion.
> > > > > > That worst fear of the linguist turn and post-modernism was a
> > > > > > hopeless
> > > > > > relativism has now been superseded by something much worse. Now we
> > > > > > have inclusiveness. History has accommodated Church History. THe
> > > > > > Enlightenment, once portrayed as anti-religion is now the a
> > > > > > religious
> > > > > > phenomenon.
> > > > > > Forst we had the enlightenment - a group of French philosophers
> > > > > > deists
> > > > > > and materialists. Then we had the Scottish E, then the Dutch E, then
> > > > > > we have the Christian E. Hume gets ejected from the Scottish E just
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > Rousseau gets ejected from the French E. Then, once church history
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > colonised the Enlightenment, why append the adjective Christian at
> > > > > > all? Now the 5 volumes of Blair's Sermons is now heralded as the
> > > > > > greatest achievement of the Enlightenment. So how did we get from an
> > > > > > atheist and deist materialist philosophy to a firebrand Calvinist
> > > > > > minister who rejects materialism, deism and the struggle for liberty
> > > > > > in the US and France - in 15 years?
> > > > > > It is political Correctness gone mad. Religion continues to colonise
> > > > > > the terminology of the past and present to justify its existence.
>
> > > > > > On Nov 3, 6:51 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSTRE5A24HT20091103
> > > > > > > French anthropologist Levi-Strauss dies at 100
> > > > > > > Tue Nov 3, 2009 1:22pm EST
> > > > > > > Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page[-] Text [+] By
> > > > > > > Estelle
> > > > > > > Shirbon
> > > > > > > PARIS (Reuters) - French intellectual Claude Levi-Strauss, the
> > > > > > > founder
> > > > > > > of structural anthropology, has died at the age of 100, his
> > > > > > > publishing
> > > > > > > house Plon said on Tuesday.
>
> > > > > > > Levi-Strauss, who was known to a wider public thanks to his 1955
> > > > > > > memoir and masterpiece, "Tristes Tropiques," died on Saturday. He
> > > > > > > would have turned 101 on November 28.
>
> > > > > > > "He was France's greatest scientist," said writer Jean d'Ormesson,
> > > > > > > fellow member of the Academie Francaise which brings together the
> > > > > > > elite of the country's intellectual establishment.
>
> > > > > > > A brilliant student who excelled at geology, law and philosophy,
> > > > > > > Levi-
> > > > > > > Strauss was posted to Brazil as a professor in 1935. It was there
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > he found his vocation for anthropology.
>
> > > > > > > He conducted several expeditions into remote areas of the Amazon
> > > > > > > rainforest and the Mato Grosso to study the customs of local
> > > > > > > tribes,
> > > > > > > starting to develop theories and methods that would later have a
> > > > > > > profound impact on his field.
>
> > > > > > > He returned to France and was drafted into the French army at the
> > > > > > > start of World War Two. After the defeat of France by the Nazis,
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > realized that being Jewish had now become dangerous and he moved
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the United States until 1944.
>
> > > > > > > Over the following years, he held a number of prestigious
> > > > > > > scientific
> > > > > > > posts in Paris and New York and started to churn out his
> > > > > > > influential
> > > > > > > scientific volumes.
>
> > > > > > > "I HATE VOYAGES"
>
> > > > > > > In particular, he used tribal customs and myths to show that human
> > > > > > > behavior is based on logical systems which may vary from society
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > society, but possess a common sub-structure.
>
> > > > > > > These findings, which challenged the notion that Western European
> > > > > > > culture was somehow unique or superior, resonated with the ideas
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > opponents of colonialism and Levi-Strauss gained a following
> > > > > > > beyond
> > > > > > > the circle of professional anthropologists.
>
> > > > > > > He argued that linguistics, communications and mathematical logic
> > > > > > > could be used to reveal fundamental social systems.
>
> > > > > > > Exceptionally erudite, Levi-Strauss was not the most accessible of
> > > > > > > thinkers and many of his works are impenetrable to laymen, but he
> > > > > > > managed to transcend the esoteric bounds of science with "Tristes
> > > > > > > Tropiques."
>
> > > > > > > A detailed account of social behavior among Brazilian tribes,
> > > > > > > "Tristes
> > > > > > > Tropiques" was set apart from the author's other writings by its
> > > > > > > autobiographical content.
>
> > > > > > > While the work's opening sentence -- "I hate voyages and
> > > > > > > explorers"
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > was hardly designed to win the approval of his scientific peers,
> > > > > > > lovers of literature considered it a triumph.
>
> > > > > > > The academy that awards France's most prestigious literary prize,
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Goncourt, announced the night before making public their choice
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > year that they regretted being unable to choose "Tristes
> > > > > > > Tropiques"
> > > > > > > because it was not a novel.
>
> > > > > > > He achieved France's highest recognition for a scientist in 1973,
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > he was elected to the Academie Francaise. He also received
> > > > > > > numerous
> > > > > > > honors from foreign universities and governments, including
> > > > > > > Brazil.- Hide quoted text -
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