Agreed. Vacuum is in our conscience. On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> A pure vacuum would be empty space. > Yet wherever there is space, there are also gravity waves,and there is > time. > So the space is not entirely empty. > Therefore there is no true vacuum. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > On May 6, 1:20 pm, einseele <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes there is vacuum in any discrete order, the distance between > > elements is pure vaccum > > For instance the chain of integers, or the space between words I'm > > writing here > > (The statemente that space here is also a sign is not valid, as it is > > there just for that, to represent the neccessary vacuum needed) > > > > if not, read this below (above no spacing) > > > > > Yestherecanbevacuuminanydiscreteorder,thedistancebetweenelementsispurevaccumForinstancethechainofintegers,orthespacebetweenwordsI'mwritinghere > > > (Thestatementethatspacehereisalsoasignisnotvalid,asitistherejustforthat,torepresenttheneccessaryvacuumneeded) > > > > On 6 maio, 13:16, Robert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding of CERN is that while they hope to find the Higgs > > > Boson, > > > that is not the total intent and purpose. > > > Colliders basically are predicated on child's play. > > > Let's smash these two things together as hard as we can, > > > and see what happens. > > > The chief flaw in all this is that so many things happen so fast, from > > > the collisions, > > > that statistical software must be employed to sift and analyze the > > > emitted data. > > > How good is that software? > > > Are there significant data bits that are being ignored, lost, or > > > misinterpreted? > > > We don't know. > > > As to all this talk about vacuum, I am not a physicist, so I get > > > confused immediately > > > before you get to the E=MC squared part. > > > But we do know that vacuum, in concept, is pure space. > > > Can there be any such thing as pure space? > > > Space exists only in the context of matter, energy and time. > > > Indeed, all four of the components of space-time-energy-mass > > > exist only in the context of each other. > > > So a pure vacuum may be the sound of one hand clapping. > > > And none of the four components in any combination explains conscious > > > awareness (much less free will). > > > We think we are so smart. > > > But the human brain has limits, and even the most intelligent human > > > may be unable to > > > even begin to comprehend the essentials of physics. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On May 6, 6:59 am, sadovnik socratus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Two ways to God Particle. > > > > 1 > > > > One way to find God Particle is CERN. > > > > The result of the CERN experiment can be received > > > > only in the reference frame of vacuum. > > > > The vacuum is the most important part of CERN. > > > > 2 > > > > Another way to find God Particle takes its beginning > > > > from QED. QED says: all electron parameters in > > > > interaction with vacuum become infinite. But this is > > > > forbidden by " The Law of Conservation and > > > > Transformation of Energy". Question: > > > > How the electron will regenerate from the vacuum? > > > > 3 > > > > So, CERN and QED cannot exist without vacuum. > > > > Questions: What is vacuum: T=0K ? > > > > Which kind of particles can exist in T=0K condition? > > > > 4 > > > > I say, that Third Law of Thermodynamics gives the answer: > > > > the particles in T=0K condition don’t have volume and > > > > therefore they must be flat circle/ disc particles: c/d=pi=3,14 . . . > > > > And if vacuum is some kind of energy space – so the particles > > > > also must be some kind of energy particles with potential > > > > energy: E=Mc^2. > > > > And if vacuum is some kind of thermodynamics space – so > > > > the particles must have potential gravity mass: R/N=k. > > > > > > And when I posted my opinion I received emails from some > > > > persons with Ph.D in their pockets: idiot, moron, cretin . . . > > > > . . . drink your cup of hemlock. > > > > 5 > > > > Where is my mistake? > > > > 6 > > > > On my opinion, to search God Particle using CERN > > > > is mad project. It is better ( and maybe it is cheaper too) > > > > to understand: What is electron? > > > > How the electron regenerates from the vacuum? > > > > And if we understand what electron is, we will also > > > > understand that CERN is the big pyramid in the XXIc. > > > > =====================. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > Israel Sadovnik Socratus > > > > ==================. > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Epistemology" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<epistemology%[email protected]> > . > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Epistemology" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<epistemology%[email protected]> > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Epistemology" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<epistemology%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Epistemology" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<epistemology%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > > -- nubiaafrika.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. 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