On Sep 3, 11:03 pm, Timothy Monicken <[email protected]> wrote: > I am not necessarily a "theist" in the most common sense of the word, though > I do believe in a kind of "cosmic consciousness," which then allows for the > 'combinatorics' of this universe to ensue according to "aptness of derived > function."
Are you quoting yourself? What is combinatorics? How does it 'ensue (?) aptness of derived function - which is what exactly? >> To answer the idea of "implicate order," it was first brought > into the vernacular by David Bohm. If you are trying to establish whatever it is you mean by 'cosmic consciousness' by applying BOhm's idea of the holonomic brain, you ought to be advised that he was talking about grey matter specifically and not inert disorganised matter that is characteristic of the universe. > The "idea" is essentially linked to the > *unfolding universe* as an *expression* that, in my view, can be tied to a > kind of *teleological referencing...* hope this helps. Are you being deliberately obscurantist - are do you actually think you are making sense? Oh, and I view DNA > as the most *elementary* of derived information systems... stemming from a * > synthesis* or process of "conception." What a strange and imaginative view. Is this view evidential? It is immaterial (in my view) that > any specific "ideas" do or do not "originate" in the human mind... as the > human mind is merely one possibility of a "cybernetic environment." I fear > we have "elevated" human consciousness into some kind of revered "holy > cow." > This is *not* to say that I minimize the potential efficacy of the > collective human mind... but due to our present & shared "boundedness" - > both dimensionally and recursively speaking, it *must* be acknowledged that > "we" are NOT "all that." Do you imagine that any of this is valuable to an Epistemology NG? > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > DNA does not contain ideas a priori. The idea that there is such a > > thing as DNA was, at one time original. > > I'm not sure where you are going with this unless you are a theist. > > > On Aug 25, 11:37 am, awori achoka <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Does this take us back to the biochemical formula behind each DNA > > code---is > > > it that, which is original?. > > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:36 PM, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > As each organism is unique, then all DNA arrangements are original. > > > > > On Aug 24, 5:31 pm, einseele <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The word idea is may be of conflict and so populated by different > > > > > concepts that I allow me to rephrase, can anything be an original? > > > > > Yes I think so, for instance DNA > > > > > So if something can be original, then the corresponding idea it is as > > > > > well, whatever means idea, DNA, etc. > > > > > This does not mean DNA cannot be copied, but to mean there is always > > > > > an original > > > > > > On 22 ago, 13:17, Awori <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as an original idea? Can ideas originate from > > > > > > without? > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > > "Epistemology" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]<epistemology%2bunsubscr...@google > > > > groups.com> > > <epistemology%2bunsubscr...@google groups.com> > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > > nubiaafrika.blogspot.com > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Epistemology" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<epistemology%2bunsubscr...@google > > groups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.
