Take your time. = On May 14, 11:00 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > sure.... give me five years to try to understand Faster than Light.... OK? > > > > On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:43:41 AM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote: > > > More details > > ===. > > > The basis of SRT ( by an uneducated Socratus) > > > ===. > > > SRT is based on four facts. > > > Fact number 1: > > > The constant speed of photon in vacuum is minimal. > > > ( from vacuum's point of view and tachyon theory ) > > > Fact number 2: > > > The inertia of photon depends on its potential energy: E=Mc^2 > > > In 1905 Einstein asked: > > > “ Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content ?” > > > As he realized the answer was: > > > “ Yes, it depends on E= Mc^2 ” > > > It means that inertia of quantum particle (photon, electron ) > > > depends on E= Mc^2 ( nobody explains the details of such > > > possibility of inertia movement. How can E=Mc^2 > > > be responsible for inertial movement of quantum particle ? ) > > > Someone wrote to me: > > > “An old professor of mine used to say > > > that anyone who can answer that question > > > what inertia is, would win a Nobel Prize. “ > > > Fact number 3: > > > Every speed and energy > > > ( including the speed and energy of photon ) are relative. > > > Speed, energy, impulse . . . . etc they are physical parameters > > > which belong to one, single quantum particle. > > > If you change one parameter all others will change automatically too. > > > For example : > > > In 1916 Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c. > > > If you change one electron's parameter all others parameters > > > also will be changed and the electron's energy will change too. > > > Take, for example, electron in atom. > > > Electron tied with atom by the energy: E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV. > > > But if someone parameter changes, then electron jumps out from atom > > > with energy E=h*f ( it is said: electron emits quantum of light, > > > but where this quantum of light is hidden in the electron, in which pocket > > ?) > > > In vacuum the energy of electron is E=Mc^2 (according to SRT and Dirac), > > > but when someone parameter is changed then electron jumps out from > > > vacuum with energy E=h*f. ( effect of vacuum fluctuation ). > > > Fact number 4: > > > The Lorentz equations explain the transformations (revolving movement) > > > of quantum particles using the Goudsmit – Uhlenbeck inner impulse > > > of particle: h* = h/ 2pi. > > > ===. > > > All the best. > > > Israel Sadovnik Socratus > > > =====… > > > P.S. > > > " Einstein's special theory of relativity is based on two postulates: > > > One is the relativity of motion, and the second is the constancy > > > and universality of the speed of light. > > > Could the first postulate be true and the other false? > > > If that was not possible, Einstein would not have had to make two > > > postulates. But I don't think many people realized until recently > > > that you could have a consistent theory in which you changed only > > > the second postulate." > > > / Lee Smolin, The Trouble With Physics, p. 226. / > > > # > > > Question: > > > Can quantum of light change its constant speed ? > > > Answer: Faster-than-light. > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light > > > etc . . . > > > ===… > > > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM, nominal9 <[email protected] <javascript:> > > > wrote: > > >> So... Socratus and Awori..... I guess I should ask the question > >> differently.... do photons have "mass"? > >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon > >> Experimental checks on photon mass > > >> The photon is currently understood to be strictly massless, but this is > >> an experimental question. If the photon is not a strictly massless > >> particle, it would not move at the exact speed of light in vacuum, *c*. > >> Its speed would be lower and depend on its frequency. Relativity would be > >> unaffected by this; the so-called speed of light, *c*, would then not be > >> the actual speed at which light moves, but a constant of nature which is > >> the maximum speed that any object could theoretically attain in space-time. > >> [21] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-23> Thus, it would > >> still be the speed of space-time ripples (gravitational > >> waves<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_waves>and > >> gravitons <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton>), but it would not be > >> the speed of photons. > > >> A massive photon would have other effects as well. Coulomb's > >> law<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law>would be modified and > >> the electromagnetic field would have an extra > >> physical degree of freedom. These effects yield more sensitive experimental > >> probes of the photon mass than the frequency dependence of the speed of > >> light. If Coulomb's law is not exactly valid, then that would cause the > >> presence of an electric > >> field<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_field>inside a hollow > >> conductor when it is subjected to an external electric > >> field. This thus allows one to > >> test<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_electromagnetism>Coulomb's law > >> to very high precision. > >> [22] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-24> A null result > >> of such an experiment has set a limit of *m* ≲ 10−14 > >> eV/c2.[23]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-25> > > >> Sharper upper limits have been obtained in experiments designed to detect > >> effects caused by the galactic vector > >> potential<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_potential>. > >> Although the galactic vector potential is very large because the galactic > >> magnetic > >> field <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> exists on very long > >> length scales, only the magnetic field is observable if the photon is > >> massless. In case of a massive photon, the mass term [image: > >> \scriptstyle\frac{1}{2} m^2 A_{\mu}A^{\mu}] would affect the galactic > >> plasma. The fact that no such effects are seen implies an upper bound on > >> the photon mass of *m* < 3×10−27 > >> eV/c2.[24]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-26>The galactic > >> vector potential can also be probed directly by measuring the > >> torque exerted on a magnetized > >> ring.[25]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-27>Such methods > >> were used to obtain the sharper upper limit of 10 > >> −18eV/c2 (the equivalent of 1.07×10−27 atomic mass units) given by the > >> Particle Data > >> Group.[26]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-amsler-28> > > >> These sharp limits from the non-observation of the effects caused by the > >> galactic vector potential have been shown to be model > >> dependent.[27]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-29>If the > >> photon mass is generated via the Higgs > >> mechanism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_mechanism> then the upper > >> limit of *m*≲10−14 eV/c2 from the test of Coulomb's law is valid. > > >> Photons inside > >> superconductors<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductors>do develop a > >> nonzero effective > >> rest > >> mass<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_mass_%28solid-state_physics%29>; > >> as a result, electromagnetic forces become short-range inside > >> superconductors.[28] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#cite_note-30> > >> See also: Supernova/Acceleration > >> Probe<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova/Acceleration_Probe> > > >> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:31:48 PM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote: > > >>> photon is an energy/mass particle: E=Mc^2 > > >>> this energy/mass ( E=Mc^2 ) is not constant parameter > > >>> this energy/mass ( E=Mc^2 ) can be changed ( together with speed ) > > >>> for example: E=Mc^2 changes into E=h*f and vice versa > >>> == > > >>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Photon<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon> > >>>> Do you agree with this? > >>>> so, is a photon energy or particle..... when, if both?...... > > >>>> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:03:26 AM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote: > > >>>>> SRT by an uneducated Socratus. > >>>>> =. > >>>>> SRT is based on three facts ! > >>>>> Fact number 1: > >>>>> The constant speed of photon in vacuum is minimal. > >>>>> Fact number 2: > >>>>> The inertia of photon depends on its potential energy: E=Mc^2 > >>>>> Fact number 3: > >>>>> Every speed and energy > >>>>> ( including the speed and energy of photon ) are relative. > >>>>> ===. > >>>>> Israel Socratus > > >>>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Epistemology" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>> an email to epistemology...@**googlegroups.com. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> Visit this group > >>>> athttp://groups.google.com/**group/epistemology?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en> > >>>> . > >>>> For more options, > >>>> visithttps://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > >>>> . > > >>> -- > >>> You do not really understand something unless you can explain > >>> it to your grandmother. / Albert Einstein / > >>> The secret of God and Existence is hidden in ‘Quantum of Light Theory ’. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Epistemology" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<javascript:> > >> . > >> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > >> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > > You do not really understand something unless you can explain... > > read more »
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