Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: cold wx starts

[Ron Hynes]

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What temperature outside ? What startup procedure ? Did you flood the engine with too much prime? Did you use any prime ?  What type Carb, MS or Stromberg ?    I am so accustomed to propping by hand that I easily can tell if cylinders are dry or wet with fuel.   I use a couple of shots of prime and with the ignition STILL OFF, I turn the prop by hand through 4 revolutions only and then switch ON and start.   [ But I am used to hand propping any small engine ]  If I can't get  it going right then and there, then SWITCH OFF and turn the prop backwards 10 or 20 times to clear excess fuel from cylinders. Then try another start with starter or by hand.  I don't like starters when engines are cold.     I prefer to "feel" the engine.  Remember to have your fire extinguisher close by.   Go easy on the primer volume.[usually the first primer shot is only air so that means I pump the primer once to clear the air and twice to squirt fuel into the engine.]    A long bunch of years ago when I was buying a Cub from a real Special Lady flight instructer by the name of Landen Stores down in New Haven Conn.  she warned me to always count to 4 every time I would swing the prop. and to keep my other hand behind my back.  I still hear her strict words and have never ever touched a prop without heeding her wise words. No broken bones to this date so far. Thanks Landen, You are a darn good teacher and a terrific pilot.    [ And  Landen, if you read this, I owe you an apology for selling that beautiful Cub back then ]   Ron Hynes Alberta, Western Canada   -------Original Message-------   From: David Douglas Winters Date: 02/20/06 20:42:30 To: 'James B. Brennan'; 'Ron Hynes' Cc: flyin@ercoupers.com Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: cold wx starts   I went out to do a 200 mile x-country Sat morn.  Cold day.  Van battery (outside) was flat.  Auto in warm garage started, though.   Went to airfield.  Plane would not start.  Battery OK.  Air temp well below freezing.  No hangar.  Kept grinding on starter til battery started to fail.   No Joy, so, we scrubbed the trip.   Real disappointment.  Wife got that “So what did you expect?” look.   Anybody got suggestions on how to start a coupe in the cold?  (and save my reputation/marriage)   Dave Winters 2797H   -----Original Message----- From: James B. Brennan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:44 PM To: Ron Hynes Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flyin@ercoupers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] gas   Call it GREED, Call it THEFT. It sure as hell isn't concern for your neighbor is it ?  It is "life" today everywhere.    -------Original Message-------   From: Sydney Cohen Date: 02/18/06 17:29:03 To: ken carnahan Cc: flyin@ercoupers.com Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] gas   ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]----     Here in Wausau, WI it is $3.80 a gallon, but 18 miles north, in Merrill, WI it's 2.95.  Go figure.   Sid Get over it! It's microeconomics, not greed or theft. Then, Wausau, being a relatively large city in the Wisconsin hinterlands, may have one of those fancy FBOs. (I went into Albany, NY on a student cross country years ago and was blown away by the Signature FBO -- talk about gold plated!) Merrill is a little burg and, like the other fellow said, perhaps he had somewhat older gas to sell at an older price, and at a smaller field. In Southern New England, the price ranges from hideous to insulting. I'd lay the "GREED" and "THEFT" terms on the oil companies who, immediately after Katrina slapped about a buck onto their price for gas that literally was already in the pipeline and/or still in refinery tanks before the storm (obviously scheduled for the old prices). [You DID hear of the profits the oily boys have been making??] That was a demonic sin. Our tiny part of their output is naturally going to reflect the "GREED" and "THEFT" of the oil companies in aggregate and shouldn't be pinned on individual retailers. While I'm not keen on $3- $4 100 Lotsa-Lead, I am grateful that the oily boys still bother to service us, as we are hardly more than a nuisance in their big picture (which I believe includes phasing out avgas anyway). I think it is not fair to lay it on the small FBOs. Beach

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