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1. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] double posting - was Ercoupe seat recline
2. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying cross wind and
coupes
3. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Missouri Ercoupe Fly-In
4. RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying cross wind
and coupes
5. [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe seat recline
6. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe seat recline
7. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying cross wind
and coupes
8. RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying cross wind
and coupes
9. [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual
10. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual
11. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual
12. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual
13. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Anyone know if it is legal to to share copys of old
magazine articles?
14. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Anyone know if it is legal to to share copys of
old magazine articles?
15. [COUPERS-FLYIN] COUPE LANDINGS
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From: john kuhfahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ed Burkhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: john kuhfahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] double posting - was Ercoupe seat recline
ED,
WHERE IS THE TECH LINK?
Kim...I believe there is an STC to put Cessna 150
seats in that might recline? This would require
approval. It seems to me almost everything in our
birds are somewhat structural so be careful! Could
you use a triangular wedge to sit on to keep your body
more straight?
JOHN N2138H
--- Ed Burkhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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To Kim and others who've recently double posted
messages,
There's no need to double post questions or comments
like this.
Everybody should be a member of TECH. So, for any
technical question or
comment, TECH is the right place. (There are only a
few people who are not
members of FLYIN.)
(If, however, someone starts a tech subject on
FLYIN, we just reply on the
same list to minimize confusion.)
But please, if it's related to Ercoupes, flying
technique, mechanical
technique, regulations affecting Coupes, then TECH
is the right place.
Since you did post on both places, let's see if
people would please post the
replies on TECH only and not double post them.
Thanks all.
Ed Burkhead
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From: "Jim and Lynn Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ercoupe Hangar Flying" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Jim and Lynn Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying cross
wind and coupes
Hello fellow hangar flyers,
I have read the cross wind landing comments with interest.
Harry, Ed,and Dan have it right. But we as coupe owners do have a magical
force or at least a helping hand to the laws of physics. Who could argue
with Newton right Syd. Our planes, all of them,
415 through the M-10s have trailing arm landing gear.
Even the spring gear found on some coupes extend back away from where they
are attached. This multiplies or extends the force, Dan described the
force,
that straightens the plane to the center line. With our built in lever
it
is like putting a piece of pipe on a wrench to move the hard to get off
nut.
The nut in this case is our whole airplane. This puts the coupe in a class
by itself, thank you Fred, way ahead of the other tricycle landing gear
planes. It is able to right itself on the strip very very quickly
everytime.
No help from the nose wheel is needed.
This is the way I land when the C-150 boys aren't flying because of the
wind
is too much for them and not down the runway. Others may do it a bit
different.
I like to land hot let the coupe do it's thing, you know, right itself
with
the runway at touchpown. I ease off on any input at the yoke for that
instant of contact. I nail it on with the brakes and elevator, then drive
it like a car to the taxiway and ramp.
It works for me.
Jim Palmer N9513V M-10 I was also a 415-C owner (no rudders).
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From: Larry Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: Larry Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Missouri Ercoupe Fly-In
All,
I want to publicly thank Bill Whitlock for organizing the Missouri
Ercoupe Fly-In and Okotoberfest in Cameron, Missouri, last weekend.
Bill provided a great German dinner Friday and organized a really
good Chinese dinner the next day. We were all concerned with weather
on Sunday and left Saturday afternoon, so it was cut a bit short, but
I got to meet a lot of interesting people and had a great time. Then
landings on Friday were particularly thrilling with the 16-24 knot
direct crosswinds! Just when you thought you had it nailed, a gust
would either start or, worse, stop. Kept us on our toes!
I hope next year we can get even more participants.
Larry
N99340
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From: "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cflyin" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying cross
wind and coupes
Jim wrote:
Our planes, all of them, 415 through the M-10s have trailing
arm landing gear. Even the spring gear found on some coupes
extend back away from where they are attached. This
multiplies or extends the force, Dan described the force,
that straightens the plane to the center line.
Jim,
I'd suggest that the fact that our gear is trailing arm has nothing to do
with the efficacy of the auto-rotation to line up with the direction of
motion . . .
. .
except
. .
in that it's a simple way to put the main gear wheels where the designer
wanted with less structural weight.
Rather than having to build a front-spar-to-rear-spar structure strong
enough to handle the gear, Fred was able to simply mount the main gear to
the strongest structure, the main spar, yet put the wheel where he wanted
it.
For the physics of the auto-rotation to line up with the direction of
motion, a gear mounted vertically directly above the desired wheel
location
would work just as well as our trailing arm gear -- as long as that
vertical
gear is strong enough to handle the side-load.
Ed Burkhead
http://edburkhead.com
ed -at- edburkhead???.com (change -at- to @ and remove "???")
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From: DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Kim Blackseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Reply-To: DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe seat recline
Hello, Kim,
I sincerely hope you do not consider this post to be insensitive; I do not
intend it to be. I applaud your courage and desire to fly unassisted.
However your previous posts indicate you have purchased a very old
airplane and you do not yet know how to fly. These factors could prove to
be a recipe for disaster in the event you had to make an emergency,
off-field landing. I am fortunate to be unimpaired, and have an ALON with
lowered cockpit rails. Yet, I find it difficult getting out of my airplane
after flight - possibly due to my advanced age. Again, from what you have
written, it appears that you might be unable to egress the airplane in the
situation described above, or even in a landing mishap. Then, too, there
is your statement about learning to fly in your Coupe. Gross weight
limitations always become a consideration when a pilot and co-pilot
(Flight Instructor) are aboard. You might find your fuel capacity to be
severly limited, thus further decreasing your options. I do hope you have
considered these possibilities and/or that I have misunderstood or misread
your posts. One thing for sure is that I, like all Coupers, wish you the
best of luck in whatever course you decided to pursue. Don Bowen
CC: [email protected]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:
[COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe seat recline> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006
19:46:33 -0700> To: [email protected]> > ----[Please read
http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this
forum.]----> > > Folks...> > As I've previously mentioned, I'm in a
wheelchair and this weekend > found a good way to get in the cockpit (not
very elegant, but it > works). We are making minor modifications to
switch locations, > bigger knobs, etc, etc. and am thrilled so say that I
think this is > going to be a GREAT plane for me to learn to fly in.> > I
hope this isn't too dumb of a question, but I need to recline my > back
if I've been sitting more than 45 minutes to an hour. Any > longer and I
hurt pretty good. The seats in the plane sit straight > up and are backed
right up to a bar that is painted the same primer > as the frames, but
I'm not sure it's a structural member. I'm going > to crawl around the
cockpit this weekend to see if it appears to be > structural or is just
holding the hat shelf.> > I would like to add a reclining seat on the
left side, for times on > on the ground and need to relieve back stress.
Can I have the > benefit of the groups experience regarding this
modification? Is > there any reason a reclining seat back cannot be
added? Is the bar > behind the seat back structural and if so, can it be
altered to allow > the seat back to recline?> > Thanks for your
advice...> > Kim Blackseth> N2332H>
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From: ght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: ght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] RE: [COUPERS-TECH] Ercoupe seat recline
Don,
Actually, that was very well put. You bring up some
good safety points that everyone should keep in mind,
impaired or not.
I didn't give much thought to how difficult any given
plane is to get out of in an emergency until I
happened to hear a talk at an EAA function from a guy
selling emergency pilot parachutes. I suppose that you
folks who have military flying training and experience
have safety issues etched into your brain, but that is
not necessarily the case for the rest of us.
In the future, before buying or building a plane, I
would certainly consider this factor, along with other
factors of course.
Spook
--- DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello, Kim,
I sincerely hope you do not consider this post to be
insensitive; I do not intend it to be. I applaud
your courage and desire to fly unassisted. However
your previous posts indicate you have purchased a
very old airplane and you do not yet know how to
fly. These factors could prove to be a recipe for
disaster in the event you had to make an emergency,
off-field landing. I am fortunate to be unimpaired,
and have an ALON with lowered cockpit rails. Yet, I
find it difficult getting out of my airplane after
flight - possibly due to my advanced age. Again,
from what you have written, it appears that you
might be unable to egress the airplane in the
situation described above, or even in a landing
mishap. Then, too, there is your statement about
learning to fly in your Coupe. Gross weight
limitations always become a consideration when a
pilot and co-pilot (Flight Instructor) are aboard.
You might find your fuel capacity to be severly
limited, thus further decreasing your options. I do
hope you have considered these possibilities and/or
that I have misunderstood or misread your posts. One
thing for sure is that I, like all Coupers, wish you
the best of luck in whatever course you decided to
pursue. Don Bowen
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From: John Silberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ed Burkhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Cflyin Flyin <[email protected]>
Reply-To: John Silberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying cross
wind and coupes
The advantage of the trailing link gear, besides making easier, softer
landings is that the crosswind landing imparts more of a twisting load
to the spar where a vertical leg produces all side load which is harder
on the spar.
jsilberman
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From: "David Douglas Winters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Ed Burkhead'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'Cflyin'" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "David Douglas Winters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying cross
wind and coupes
Hey guys,
For what it is worth, "Fred", in his patent drawings, showed the main
gear on straight struts (no trailing arms) and described them as a
"surface engagement means" aft of the center of gravity.
Along with these, he claimed a "castoring" nose wheel. (And, of course,
our nose wheels DO castor.)
In the specifications, he describes how his design makes the plane tend
to castor or point in the direction of actual flight (not the heading)
once the gear contacts to ground.
It is interesting reading, for those who care to look it up.
Patent number is 2,110,516. You can find it on USPTO.GOV.
Dave Winters
(a congenitally curious patent attorney)
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From: Ed Burkhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:06 PM
To: Cflyin
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying
cross wind and coupes
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Jim wrote:
Our planes, all of them, 415 through the M-10s have trailing
arm landing gear. Even the spring gear found on some coupes
extend back away from where they are attached. This
multiplies or extends the force, Dan described the force,
that straightens the plane to the center line.
Jim,
I'd suggest that the fact that our gear is trailing arm has nothing to
do
with the efficacy of the auto-rotation to line up with the direction of
motion . . .
. .
except
. .
in that it's a simple way to put the main gear wheels where the designer
wanted with less structural weight.
Rather than having to build a front-spar-to-rear-spar structure strong
enough to handle the gear, Fred was able to simply mount the main gear
to
the strongest structure, the main spar, yet put the wheel where he
wanted
it.
For the physics of the auto-rotation to line up with the direction of
motion, a gear mounted vertically directly above the desired wheel
location
would work just as well as our trailing arm gear -- as long as that
vertical
gear is strong enough to handle the side-load.
Ed Burkhead
http://edburkhead.com
ed -at- edburkhead???.com (change -at- to @ and remove "???")
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From: James B. Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Cflyin Flying <[email protected]>
Reply-To: James B. Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual
G'Day Folks,
Yesterday someone had the good fortune to acquire an apparently genuine
1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual (went for $43.76 incl. Post). Should
that someone be one of us, I ask that xerox copies be made available
for a nominal sum (whatever that means). I wanted it, but have been
suffering too many Ercoupe wallet bite marks of late and thought I
should ease back (also in consideration of domestic tranquility under
the aforementioned circumstances). To belabor the obvious, the buyer
of the Manual could recoup much / all / more than his / her ebay bill
by selling us copies. Conversely, if another one of us has this
Manual, would you consider offering copies?
A possibility? The Manual:
Thanking you,
Jim
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From: John Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James B. Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: John Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual
Jim,
I don't do ebay on a regular basis. Perhaps if you, and others who surf
there, run across something that can be shared you could put a quick
post on the flyin site and we could quickly raise money to capture it.
John Roach
N 2427H
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G'Day Folks,
Yesterday someone had the good fortune to acquire an apparently
genuine 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual (went for $43.76 incl. Post).
Should that someone be one of us, I ask that xerox copies be made
available for a nominal sum (whatever that means). I wanted it, but
have been suffering too many Ercoupe wallet bite marks of late and
thought I should ease back (also in consideration of domestic
tranquility under the aforementioned circumstances). To belabor the
obvious, the buyer of the Manual could recoup much / all / more than
his / her ebay bill by selling us copies. Conversely, if another one
of us has this Manual, would you consider offering copies?
A possibility? The Manual:
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From: John Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: James B. Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Cflyin Flying
<[email protected]>
Reply-To: John Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual
At 03:00 PM 10/17/2006, James B. Brennan wrote:
Yesterday someone had the good fortune to acquire an apparently
genuine 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual (went for $43.76 incl.
Post). Should that someone be one of us,
Ya should have told me. I've been looking for one. We (Skyport)
sell a later version, which has more info (a superset, if you will)
but this one would be interesting for historical purposes. Price is
$7.50.
John Cooper, A&P
Skyport Services
PO Box 249
4996 Delaware Tnpk
Rensselaerville, NY 12147
518 797-3064
Fax 518 797-3865
www.skyportservices.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] 1946 Ercoupe Instruction Manual
Folks,
I may be mistaken, but I got mine from Univair... Last time I looked,
they
were still available....Page 15 of Univair's cataloge...at about $10.00..
I
suggest you also get the flight manuals also..interesting reading on how
to
land in a crosswind...
My price list is old, so prices may have increased from the $5.25 price
for
the instruction manual.
Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Anyone know if it is legal to to share copys of
old magazine articles?
I have 2 old Air Facts The magazine for pilots 1 is March 1946 Vol. 9 No.
3
The new Ercoupe
written by Leighton Collins ("It's fast,it climbs right,and it lands so
well
that you will do
best to let it have its own way") 16 pages long. 2nd one it May 1 1949
Transition Ercoupe to
Navion written by David H. Scott 10 pages long.
Both of them are interesting read and I would like to share them ( free of
charge) with other Ercoupe enthusiasts . Anyone know what the legality is
in
doing this? They are both interesting read.
Curtis
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From: "Ron Hynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Ron Hynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Anyone know if it is legal to to share copys
of old magazine articles?
Curtis, those articles are now most likely way too old to have any
"Rights"
attached. I may be wrong but I feel sure that after something like 17
years
anyone can use them.
I have here two printed and bound books of "AIR FACTS" from that period.
The articles were published in two volumes and are very interesting.
Ron Hynes
Alberta, Western canada
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/17/06 16:20:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Anyone know if it is legal to to share copys of
old
magazine articles?
I have 2 old Air Facts The magazine for pilots 1 is March 1946 Vol. 9 No.
3
The new Ercoupe
written by Leighton Collins ("It's fast,it climbs right,and it lands so
well
that you will do
best to let it have its own way") 16 pages long. 2nd one it May 1 1949
Transition Ercoupe to
Navion written by David H. Scott 10 pages long.
Both of them are interesting read and I would like to share them ( free of
charge) with other Ercoupe enthusiasts . Anyone know what the legality is
in doing this? They are both interesting read.
Curtis
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From: DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FLYIN <[email protected]>
Reply-To: DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] COUPE LANDINGS
The new Ercoupe
written by Leighton Collins ("It's fast,it climbs right,and it lands so
well that you will do
best to let it have its own way") 16 pages
My thoughts exactly ! I have flown 65 different airplane models over the
years and consider my ALON to be the easiest and most forgiving of any of
them. I have no reason to think the Ercouopes are significantly
different. Just fly the "damn airplane" down to the ground, and forget
about snubber cables, cg moments and such. It ain't all that complicated,
guys! Don.
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From: "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cflyin" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Ed Burkhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] COUPE LANDINGS
Don Bowen wrote:
My thoughts exactly ! I have flown 65 different airplane models over
the years and consider my ALON to be the easiest and most forgiving of any
of them. I have no reason to think the Ercouopes are significantly
different. Just fly the "damn airplane" down to the ground, and forget
about
snubber cables, cg moments and such. It ain't all that complicated, guys!
<<<<<
Don,
You're right that it's not a big deal unless there's a problem. A dropped
in landing with insufficient shock absorption could damage the nose gear
and
engine mount. People worry that if their nose gear touches first, they'll
ground loop or something. That's why it's worth discussion.
Didn't you fighter jocks ever discuss the right way to tweak a maneuver?
Besides, if the snubber cable can be removed, people can put back on that
nose gear strut fairing. Fred Weick said that their testing showed it
made
almost exactly one mph improvement in the cruise speed. We don't have all
that many of those mph thingies - we'll take all we can get. (Kind of
like
adding 17 mph to the top speed of your fighter jet.)
Ed Burkhead
http://edburkhead.com
ed -at- edburkhead???.com (change -at- to @ and remove "???")
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From: Jack Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, FLYIN <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Jack Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] COUPE LANDINGS
Way to go, Don!
I agree completely, quit worrying, have fun, fly the damned plane, drive
on to the ground.
I have an old pilots manual that suggests that you lock the emergency
brake before landing if you are fast on a short strip. It goes on to
mention that you may experience excessive tire wear! That cracks me up!!!!
Take care!
Jack Stanton
DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body { FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } >>>>>The new Ercoupe written by Leighton
Collins ("It's fast,it climbs right,and it lands so well that you will do
best to let it have its own way") 16 pages
My thoughts exactly ! I have flown 65 different airplane models over the
years and consider my ALON to be the easiest and most forgiving of any of
them. I have no reason to think the Ercouopes are significantly
different. Just fly the "damn airplane" down to the ground, and forget
about snubber cables, cg moments and such. It ain't all that complicated,
guys! Don.
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From: ght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: ght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] COUPE LANDINGS
Don,
I always like to ask this of all the guys who have had
such extensive experience.
Which one or ones are your favorite? Why? Would it be
the Alon or do you have favorites in various
categories of planes?
I asked the same question of a man I know. He was a
Navy flight instructor in WWII and yes, he is still
flying most Saturdays. I asked him what his favorite
was and he said that he didn't have one. He said they
all have their good and bad points. How's that for
diplomatic?
His current regular plane is a beautiful T-6. I'm even
more impressed that he does, in fact, have a current
medical. I was suspicious that he didn't but I looked
it up. This guy is tough and healthy! I wish it were
that way for everyone, but sadly it's not.
Spook
--- DONALD BOWEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My thoughts exactly ! I have flown 65 different
airplane models over the years and consider my ALON
to be the easiest and most forgiving of any of them.
I have no reason to think the Ercouopes are
significantly different. Just fly the "damn
airplane" down to the ground, and forget about
snubber cables, cg moments and such. It ain't all
that complicated, guys! Don.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] COUPE LANDINGS
In a message dated 10/17/2006 6:55:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It ain't all that complicated, guys! Don.
Right on Don!!!!
Like the guy says when all else fails fly the airplane.
_Jim Scroggins 99714 EAA, AOPA, Florida Aero Club_
(http://jimscroggins.com/)
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From: Karl Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: Karl Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Anyone know if it is legal to to share copys
of old magazine articles?
At 05:44 PM 10/17/2006, Ron Hynes wrote:
Curtis, those articles are now most likely way too old to have any
"Rights" attached. I may be wrong but I feel sure that after
something like 17 years anyone can use them.
From www.uspto.gov ...
The length of your copyright depends on when the work was created,
published, and/or registered. Duration also depends on whether the
work was created by an individual, more than one individual, or as
employee or at the direction of another person or company. ... For
works created before January 1, 1978 (protected under the 1909
Copyright Act), [d]uration depends on a number of factors, including
whether the work was "published" and whether or not the copyright was
renewed. In general, under the 1909 Copyright Act, copyright
protection begins with first publication of the work and lasts for a
period of 28 years, renewable for an additional term of 28 years, for
a total term of protection of 56 years. In 1976, Congress extended
the renewal term to 47 years, increasing the total possible term of
protection to 75 years. In 1998, Congress again extended the renewal
term by an additional 20 years, for total possible term of protection
of 95 years from publication.
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I think the use as you describe " for the education of the members",
without
any economic benefit to you is covered under "Fair use".
My understanding of the law (part 107) is that one can copy and
distribute
information for educational purposes, specifically if it is done at no
profit
to the supplier.
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