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Yes, you better get out while you can before the sky falls. I will even give
you what it sold for new.

Kevin



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Not only do I second it but would like to add this...An Ercoupe has always 
been a rich mans plane if kept up as should be.. but with what coming down 
the tube it is getting to be out of my  reach to keep up. I can't pedal with

the rich any more so I guess I'll consider selling  my coupe and let 
someelse spend their fortune on it. My annuals have cost me over $1000 per 
yr. the last five yrs. with this now it will top $2000 easily. With flying 
only 20 to 30 hrs a yr. it's a NO-NO... and think the plane sold new for 
$3100 in Nov. of 1946.
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From: "Ronald Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ercoupe Technical Discussion (moderated)" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:13 AM
Subject: [COUPERS-TECH] RE: Digest list: Ercoupe Technical Discussion 
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> MSB 32 Now What?
> I really get sick of the attitude that I should just jump to whatever
> action somebody decides is in my best interest.  Few years ago my Cherokee
> was under an AD to jerk the wings off every 12 months for inspection of 
> the
> main spar due to six aircraft having been found with cracks in Alaska.
> After 130 inspections across the U.S., at half the cost of the value of 
> the
> airplanes, and NO cracks being found, someone revisited the cause and 
> found
> that these aircraft were often used in bush operations and were regularly
> landed in rocky stream beds when they were dried up.  Guess what?  The AD
> was rescinded and only aircraft in certain categories and over 6000
> airframe hours had to get this inspection after that.
>
> I have NO problem with a legitimate problem being brought to my attention.
> But as several of you have asked, just how many Ercoupes have had their
> wings come off?  Looks mightily like - NONE - that have not been damaged &
> abused.  The earlier AD for center section inspection procedures would 
> seem
> to be at the very least, adequate to meet the problem.
>
> OK, would it not seem reasonable for the requester of a service bulletin 
> to
> at least attempt to go find a few airframes in his or other areas and do
> the testing he is about to propose to see if a problem - fleetwide -
> exists?  If such samples testing did not turn up the feared problem, then
> he should send out an advisory only, maybe - pending further fleetwide
> research to find out if the problem exists other than upon an abused
> airframe?  If a finding DID turn up more of the problem, THEN, you have
> legitimate and valid grounds for a mandatory service bulletin that would 
> be
> considered for an AD.
>
> Has any of this been done?  Are there further positive findings of center
> section corrosion not detectable by the already in place inspection
> procedures?
>
> If not, why not?  Is Univair the party requesting (issuing) the mandatory
> service bulletin?  Should they not be held accountable for the costs we
> incur if no problems are subesequently found?  (There are laws on the 
> books
> against shouting "FIRE!" in a gathering when no fire exists.)
>
> I for one would like Univair to answer the above questions -and on their
> grounds for issuing SB 32 -This forum would be a good place to start.
>
> So, for now, I move that Univair rescind SB 32 pending further explanation
> to affected parties and/or show evidence contrary to the findings at Plain
> Parts in Sacramento, CA and subsequently written up in the Safety Board
> report on the accident.  Do I hear a second?
>
> -Ron
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