Dan -

I certainly don't claim to have the answers about how to increase membership
and participation.

But after being in this business for 42+ years, please allow me to voice
some observations:

1.  With the increased costs now, particularly for fuel, we're seeing less
of the purely social and recreational flying throughout general aviation.
Just little things - at our FBO, the guys who fly purely for non-business
reasons are down at least 20%, some far more.  Hence, fly-ins are the next
thing to suffer a drop in participation.  And, people aren't going as far to
fly-ins as they did a couple of years ago.  I've gone to a few Short Wing
Piper Club meetings with friends in the past 2 years, and participation is
woefully down from when I was a member less than 5 years ago.

2.  As cruel as it may sound, we have to realize that airplanes like the
Coupe, T-Craft, Champ, etc. usually (not always) appeal to people who,
bluntly, can't afford newer airplanes with higher performance.  Hence, those
folks are even more dramatically impacted by the increase in the costs of
flying.  Many of those folks exercising sport pilot privileges who can
afford more costly airplanes are buying the new LSAs.

3.  Clubs that are very successful, like ABS and International Comanche
Society, cater to owners of airplanes that are far more complex, and require
a higher level of pilot proficiency, as most of the pilots fly IFR.  Hence,
they really concentrate on maint. and piloting issues in their publications,
because those issues are high on the members' "need list".  That really
doesn't apply as much to Coupes.

So, participation and membership won't increase much, regardless of what you
do.  I'd be willing to bet a nice dinner that the % of owners who have been
participating members of the national type clubs across the board of
aircraft types probably hasn't changed much in the last decade, except for
the decline discussed above.  The % number will always stay about the same -
the law of inertia won't change.

I see two realistic avenues:

1.  Be satisfied with the number of members in EOC that you now have, and
the level of service and participation that you presently have, or

2.  Consider a club with a far larger universe of potential members.  Maybe
VAA, or a "Classic Aircraft Club" to get beyond the small numbers of Coupe
owners.

Jerry E.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Dan Hall
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:59 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; AJ DeMarzo;
[email protected]
  Subject: [ercoupe-tech] RE: EOC



  Al and all,
  I obtained a FAA list of all registered Ercoupe owners in the USA two
years ago and snail mailed ALL the registered Ercoupe owners in CA at my
personal expense to try and solicit;
  1) increased participation in our region 7 events (members or not!) &
  2) more active members for the Region 7 group (& our email newsletter
list).

  After many hours of work & not insignificant expense, the net response was
less than 5 new members for the CA region, and probably fewer joined the
national organization.   I have not attempted that again and am unlikely to
do so.   (BTW - I also shared the FAA listing for Ercoupe owners with the
National EOC at their request.)

  I don't know what the answer is but I've done snail mails to all
registered owners in CA, put out a (more or less weekly) email newsletter
for over 3 years, put together an annual event schedule for the region (with
all the member input I could get!) including an event each month for the
Northern & Southern halves of the state, and helped put up a web site for
the region.

  I have quite a number of people on our email newsletter list for Region 7
who are NOT EOC members, but who are interested in hearing about our
activities (and hopefully participating in them from time to time).

  While a number of the members (& non-members) enjoy and appreciate the
email newsletters, the net result has been very little change in active
participation or membership.  About the only thing I seem to have
accomplished with my MANY hours of (volunteer) time is to help keep member
participation from declining.   I would also note that the LSA & Sport Pilot
rules have helped boost interest considerably for the C & CD models, and
that seems to have helped increase interest in Ercoupes among older pilots.


  I don't know how to change the situation; however my feeling is that the
social / family aspect is probably key / critical for event participation
and organizational health (others may disagree).  The technical information
is important for keeping our Coupes flying (long term), and is of interest
to a significant minority of the group (myself included).  However technical
articles & information require regular contributions from the real technical
gurus, many of whom obviously enjoy the hands on aspects of working on the
airplanes and / or with owners; but do not seem eager to provide written
materials (perhaps personal preferences, the amount of time and work
involved, and / or worries about possible liability...?)

  I also thing that the relatively small size of our group, and the
inevitable slow shrinkage probably limits what can be done to volunteer
efforts.  Without members volunteering their efforts, I don't see how things
can be made to change significantly.

  In short, I don't have the answers, nor do I see any obvious
answers.....perhaps someone else does...?

  Best regards,
  Dan Hall
  N3968H
  Based at CNO in SoCal
  Region 7 (Acting Director)
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: AJ DeMarzo
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:03 PM
    Subject: Re: [ercoupe-flyin] Re: EOC


    When I was a director, the newsletter contained a list of all new
Ercoupe owners with a little note saying they should be contacted.  I've
registered three Ercoupes in the last four years and have never had a
solicitation to join.  There's one problem, what's the solution?

    Should things remain the same?  Marketing would be the first thing
brought up to snuff if I were steering the craft!

    Al DeMarzo
    Visit the Ercoupe Swap Page - Free and Easy
    http://www.ercoupeowners.com/swap/swapbook.htm



      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Mark H.
      To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:23 AM
      Subject: [ercoupe-flyin] Re: EOC


      I agree that this is a great place to start. But how do we get the
      word out to people that don't know about this forum? I stumbled on it
      by accident. If we still had the wing news letter or the meetings, I
      might have known sooner. See it's very true, we had a very good wing
      leader here and when he stepped down that was the end. That was a big
      part but at one time there was 8 coupes on our field, now there is
      only mine. There must be a way to let members and non-members know
      about this? Is there some way for the wings to get in touch with them
      and let them know and get them involed. And yes I did do something on
      Friday, I e-maild Syd and volunteered to help out at the 08 fly-in.
      MArk

      --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "AJ DeMarzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      wrote:
      >
      > This is a great place to start. But remember that the goals need
      to be addresses to find the mission statement. The mission statement
      shouldn't be changed to accommodate the accomplishments.
      >
      > Al DeMarzo
      > Visit the Ercoupe Swap Page - Free and Easy
      > http://www.ercoupeowners.com/swap/swapbook.htm
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Tommy Terry
      > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:40 AM
      > Subject: [ercoupe-flyin] EOC
      >
      >
      >
      > After having "slept" on the thoughts I presented last night, I
      have a question:
      >
      >
      >
      > What is the Mission Statement of the EOC?
      >
      >
      >
      > To get anywhere, we have to know where we're coming from. It is
      absolutely possible that the club is completely fulfilling it's
      mission and meeting all of its goals! If that is so, and the club is
      not meeting the needs of the membership, then; maybe we need to
      change our mission. It is not unheard of. Successful organizations
      modify their Mission Statements as times and needs change. Imagine,
      if you will, a modern fire department with items mentioned in it's
      mission statement concerning fresh hay for the horses and no mention
      of hazardous materials or emergency medical services.
      >
      >
      >
      > Could it be that we, the EOC, are still looking to provide fresh
      hay? If so, we need to re-write.
      >
      >
      >
      > Could it be that there never was a Mission Statement? If this is
      the case we need to develop one.
      >
      >
      >
      > I sure hope that an officer or two of the club will step up and
      answer those questions, not to defend him or her self but to educate
      those of us who do not know.
      >
      >
      >
      > Tommy
      >





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