Hi Glen,

I installed my with a 337 and my IA was A-OK all around.  The guys at the
San Antonio FSDO told me they are glad I was making one of those "cool old
planes" safer.  Their words...

Best,
John

On Feb 3, 2008 7:05 PM, Glen Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I installed an ADI in my Coupe and flew with it for the first time
> yesterday.  My first impression is FANTASTIC.  I wish I could have one in
> the plane I fly IFR.  The thing I noticed that make it different from a
> conventional artificial horizon is this...the pitch indicator first reacts
> to attitude change, like a conventional instrument.  But then...it indicates
> vertical speed, NOT PITCH ATTITUDE.  In other words, it the little airplane
> is above the horizon, YOU ARE CLIMBING.  This is not always true with a
> conventional instrument.  For example, if you were at 1700 RPM and trying to
> hold altitude, a conventional instrument would show the little airplane way
> above the horizon line even though you are not climbing.
>
> Bottom line, if you were to lose all visibility, all you have to do with
> this instrument in keep the little airplane on the horizon line with the
> wings level and you will hold altitude and heading perfectly.
>
> John, mine was installed with a 337.  Justification is that there was no
> artificial horizon required in the Ercoupe so this is a supplemental
> instrument that increases safety. Some may consider this a gray area.  How
> was yours done and what is your IA's take on the matter?
>
> Glen
>
>  *From:* John Craparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:40 PM
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Cc:* Bob Stearns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; Ercoupe Tech 
> Forum<[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [ercoupe-tech] Attitude Gyro
>
>     It performs almost the same way.  It certainly functions as a normal
> gyro, but it does not bank more than 45 degrees.  So in a very steep bank,
> you will not see a 60 degree indication.  Pitch is just like a vacuum gyro
> instrument.  At 45 you get an LED warning that you are overbanking.   It is
> fine for my use as I fly VFR during the day in the Ercoupe... with no
> aerobatics.  This device also has a GPS so you have a bright visual display
> of track at all times.  That is nice since I do not have a directional gyro
> with a heading bug, just a compass card.
>
> Best,
> John
>
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008 3:53 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > John
> > 1. Congrats on that beautifull panel!
> > 2. So, does the ADI perform exactly the same function as a horizon,
> > except
> > its electrical and with solid state gyros?
> > Eliacim
> >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > I have attached a picture of the ADI installed in my panel.  On the
> > > ground,
> > > I slide the other glovebox door over the GPS giving a nice retro look
> > to
> > > the
> > > panel when on static display.  The ADI is to the top right side of the
> > > GPS.
> > > I mention this because the unit is shallow and leaves room where
> > others
> > > will
> > > not fit due to the fuselage fuel tank clearance.  I forget how deep
> > the
> > > ADI
> > > is with the wiring harness, but it clears the tank by about 1/4".  I
> > also
> > > have the battery backup option installed.  When my first unit arrived,
> > it
> > > made a clicking noise and would not cage itself (there is not manual
> > > caging
> > > mechanism).  I called TruTrak and they sent me a replacement before
> > > removing
> > > the bad one.  They sent the new one in less than a week.  This saved
> > me
> > > some
> > > time and money.  The deinstall and install were done at the same time
> > > instead of two different operations.  That was my A&P's idea and
> > TruTrak
> > > went along with it.  I strongly suggest that you bench test the
> > instrument
> > > before installing it in the panel just in case it is DOI... dead on
> > > install.  The one I have in the other plane gave me zero problems.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Feb 3, 2008 11:25 AM, John Craparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bob,
> > >>
> > >> You may be referring to the ADI manufactured by TruTrack...
> > >>
> > >> http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/instruments.htm
> > >>
> > >> They will supply the unit with a black and white face if you request
> > it.
> > >> They do not advertise it as an option.  Jim the owner of the company
> > >> makes
> > >> up the retro version by hand. I have two of these ADI in my planes
> > and
> > >> like
> > >> them...
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >>   On Feb 3, 2008 11:09 AM, Bob Stearns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >   A few months back I found an electronic attitude gyro with a
> > retro
> > >> > (black & white) face. Now I cannot find it. Does anyone know of
> > this
> > >> unit? O
> > >> > maybe a suggestion for a dependable electronic AG?
> > >> >
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>  
>
> Glen
>
>
>
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