Can you even get MOGAS without alcohol anywhere?
Eliacim

> Trying to sell auto fuel at an FBO isn't very easy.
>
> First, of course, you have to have a storage and delivery system.  Even
> above ground tanks and pump are very expensive, tens of thousands of
> dollars.
>
> And, the numbers of airplanes that still use it aren't that numerous.
> Everything made since the 1980s, maybe even back into the 1970s if you
> count
> 172s and 152s need 100LL.  Larger older airplanes like most twins,
> Bonanzas,
> Comanches, and the like have needed 100 oct. fuel since they were made.
>
> Lastly, the types of airplanes that use 80 oct., and thus use auto gas,
> with
> the sole exception of old 182s and really old other airplanes using a
> Cont.
> 0470 engine don't use much fuel anyhow.  Champs, Cubs, etc. typically buy
> less than 10 gallons at a pop.  Maybe an old 172 may buy 25 gallons at a
> time.
>
> Then, finding auto gas to sell that doesn't have alcohol is a pain.
>
> So, all totalled, selling auto gas at an FBO is FAR more trouble than it's
> worth - at our place, I presume we'd sell less than 1,000 gallons a month
> of
> it even if we did have it.
>
> And, it wouldn't be much cheaper than 100LL, given the costs of buying
> small
> quantities at a time (you pay thru the nose for loads of less than a full
> tanker at a time which is 8 to 10 thousand gallons - freight costs, per
> gallon, get prohibitive), the costs of the storage and delivery system,
> and
> the labor cost to pay a lineman to put 6 to 10 gallons in a typical user
> of
> it.
>
> That's why you see very few FBOs stocking auto fuel.
>
> Jerry E.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of John Cooper
>   Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:49 AM
>   To: [email protected]
>   Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Re: support your local FBO (was Plastic Gas
> Cans)
>
>
>
>   > If you expect him to be there for you when you need him, support him
> when you don't.
>
>
>
>   So, Jerry, way has your FBO chosen not to offer auto gas?
>
>
>
>   There are those who use auto gas primarily because they feel it is a
> better choice for the engine. I happen to be one, but then I fly off my
> own
> property so I'm not really cutting into anyone's business.
>
>
>
>   We all make business decisions and tradeoffs.  I don't blame the coupe
> owner for buying something from someone else if I can't make him a
> competitive offer.  I appreciate those who buy from me even if they could
> save a buck at Aircraft Spruce.  In fact, often, after shipping is
> factored
> in, they don't pay any penalty.  But there will always be those who don't.
> The only time I let it get to me is when someone calls and asks how to
> install the part they go from Univair.  ;)
>
>
>
>   John Cooper
>
>   Skyport Services
>
>   518 797-3064
>
>   www.skyportservices.net
>
>
>
>


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