Shell and Marathon still have pure gas in Ohio. I don't know about elsewhere.
Jerry E. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Re: support your local FBO (was Plastic Gas Cans) Can you even get MOGAS without alcohol anywhere? Eliacim > Trying to sell auto fuel at an FBO isn't very easy. > > First, of course, you have to have a storage and delivery system. Even > above ground tanks and pump are very expensive, tens of thousands of > dollars. > > And, the numbers of airplanes that still use it aren't that numerous. > Everything made since the 1980s, maybe even back into the 1970s if you > count > 172s and 152s need 100LL. Larger older airplanes like most twins, > Bonanzas, > Comanches, and the like have needed 100 oct. fuel since they were made. > > Lastly, the types of airplanes that use 80 oct., and thus use auto gas, > with > the sole exception of old 182s and really old other airplanes using a > Cont. > 0470 engine don't use much fuel anyhow. Champs, Cubs, etc. typically buy > less than 10 gallons at a pop. Maybe an old 172 may buy 25 gallons at a > time. > > Then, finding auto gas to sell that doesn't have alcohol is a pain. > > So, all totalled, selling auto gas at an FBO is FAR more trouble than it's > worth - at our place, I presume we'd sell less than 1,000 gallons a month > of > it even if we did have it. > > And, it wouldn't be much cheaper than 100LL, given the costs of buying > small > quantities at a time (you pay thru the nose for loads of less than a full > tanker at a time which is 8 to 10 thousand gallons - freight costs, per > gallon, get prohibitive), the costs of the storage and delivery system, > and > the labor cost to pay a lineman to put 6 to 10 gallons in a typical user > of > it. > > That's why you see very few FBOs stocking auto fuel. > > Jerry E. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of John Cooper > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Re: support your local FBO (was Plastic Gas > Cans) > > > > > If you expect him to be there for you when you need him, support him > when you don't. > > > > So, Jerry, way has your FBO chosen not to offer auto gas? > > > > There are those who use auto gas primarily because they feel it is a > better choice for the engine. I happen to be one, but then I fly off my > own > property so I'm not really cutting into anyone's business. > > > > We all make business decisions and tradeoffs. I don't blame the coupe > owner for buying something from someone else if I can't make him a > competitive offer. I appreciate those who buy from me even if they could > save a buck at Aircraft Spruce. In fact, often, after shipping is > factored > in, they don't pay any penalty. But there will always be those who don't. > The only time I let it get to me is when someone calls and asks how to > install the part they go from Univair. ;) > > > > John Cooper > > Skyport Services > > 518 797-3064 > > www.skyportservices.net > > > >
