Ah, excellent point.  Now that gas is up to $ 2muchagallon, remember less drag 
= more speed = better economy.  In the example Syd gave, his aircraft was much 
more economical than Tandy's.  If he didn't have the weight he would have been 
idling along at 4 gph!  Keep it clean and smooth and light as possible.

Al DeMarzo
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Syd Cohen 
  Cc: ercoupe tech 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Landing Lights


  Well, yes, Dan, speed is one issue, but fuel economy is another.  Tandy Allen 
and I flew from Cape Girardeau MO to Sun N Fun two weeks ago.  I was 10% 
faster, even though I was carrying a passenger and luggage for both of us, and 
Tandy was alone.  At the end of each leg Tandy and I would top off our tanks 
and we'd put in the same amount of fuel.  If I'd throttled back a bit I would 
have burned less fuel for the same distance with the same speed as Tandy.  Drag 
does lots of bad things for airplanes.

  Syd

  Dan Caliendo wrote:


    You guys are too hung up on speed. I checked and it doesn't make any 
difference if my Ercoupe has 

    landing lights or not...... either way I get 0.13 mach!
    Dan C




    On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:32 AM, David Winters wrote:




      Syd,

      Dang!  My coupe is really slow.  Now, I may know one reason.  It has a 
landing light on each main gear.

      It sounds to me like we need an LED nose-bowl light, to avoid drag but 
endure vibration and reduce wattage required.
      I suppose that is unlikely to happen, though, unless it could be designed 
to fit more than just the Ercoupe.  But, surely that could be done.

      Any of you manufacturers or distributors out there listening?

      Dave Winters


        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Syd Cohen
        Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:25 AM
        Cc: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Landing Lights


        No drag penalty if the light is in the nosebowl, but I've been told 
that the bulbs don't last long due to engine vibration.

        Syd


        heavensounds wrote:




          OK... What about the nose bowl option?
          Eliacim

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Dan Hall
            To: Syd Cohen ; heavensounds
            Cc: [email protected]
            Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:00 PM
            Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Landing Lights






            Cut into the beautifully flush riveted and custom painted aluminum 
wings of my Ercoupe???
            That's NOT going to happen gentlemen !!!!               :-)

            If I really needed that extra 8 MPH I'd be flying an RV. 

            Dan Hall
            N3968H
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: heavensounds
              To: Syd Cohen
              Cc: [email protected]
              Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:17 PM
              Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Landing Lights


              Skyport has a kit to install them in the wings. If I was 
installing landing lights I would go that way.
              Eliacim

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Syd Cohen
                Cc: [email protected]
                Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:45 PM
                Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Landing Lights


                Yes, Dan, I am confident.  I've done quite a bit of drag 
testing on Ercoupes.

                Syd



                Dan Hall wrote:


                  Hi Syd,
                  Are you confident that number - 8 MPH for two landing lights? 

                  The reason I ask is that I put two landing lights on the main 
gear fairings of my Ercoupe (no shades) about 5 years ago and it didn't seem to 
make that big of a difference however; I didn't take before and after 
measurements. 

                  I fly at night and also appreciate the visibility while 
flying here in very busy SoCal.

                  Dan Hall
                  N3968H 
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: Syd Cohen
                    Cc: [email protected]
                    Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:07 PM
                    Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Landing Lights


                    Just a caution, Ed.  Each landing light assembly will cost 
you about 4 mph.  Are you sure you want to do this?

                    Syd



                    Ed Granato wrote: 
                      I found two old farings with landing lights in them but I 
think they 
                      are too far gone to salvage. My existing farings are in 
great shape so 
                      one idea was to obtain a pair of cylindrical sections 
that house the 
                      lights and connect them to the farings already on the 
main gear. Does
                      anyone have a pair of these or perhaps the entire 
faring-light combo in 
                      good shape that they would consider selling?




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