I have 4 comments regarding this thread
1. I regret missing the opportunity to upgrade my starter when I did my major 
overhaul two years ago. I was so tight on money, dealing with an unplanned 
major, I could not even consider it. But for those planning a major overhaul, 
that's the best time to do it.
2. B&C recommends removing the accessory case when installing their starter, 
which is a lot more work and expense, but IMHO seems to be the best way to do 
it. 
3. From talking to both vendors, plus info from users, I would prefer B&C over 
Sky-Tech. But, I could live with either. 
4. Weight savings would be my major motivation to do it.
Just MHO
Eliacim



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Re:Re; Sky-Tec conversion


  All,

  I installed a SkyTec starter on the C-90 in my Alon during the engine rebuild 
3 years ago. Long story short - my mechanic timed the mags backwards (on the 
exhaust stroke instead of the compression stroke), the engine kicked back with 
the starter engaged, a battle between the crankshaft gear and the starter drive 
ensued, and the crankshaft gear lost.  Two gear teeth sheared off, the starter 
was damaged, and the engine had to be rebuilt again.  None of this was the 
fault of the SkyTec starter.  It was all caused by the mags being timed 
backwards (a VERY easy mistake to make it turns out).  My mechanic paid for the 
second rebuild out of his pocket - no questions asked.  Talk about integrity.

  Anyhow, after talking with SkyTec, talking with B&C and doing a lot of 
research that I should have done earlier, I decided to junk the SkyTec starter 
and buy a B&C.  In my opinion, after looking at how both starters are made, and 
doing all the research, I think the B&C starter is superior in design and 
materials to the SkyTec unit.  I've had the B&C on the plane for 3 years and 
420 hours and never had any problems whatsoever.  And it spins the prop over 
almost as fast as the engine does.

  Both the SkyTec and the B&C are far superior to the original equipment 
starter.  That original starter is the Achilles heel of that entire engine. One 
kickback and the starter clutch breaks, and if the clutch breaks bad enough, it 
can shed metal into the engine.  

  One other comment - Regardless of which starter is used, if the engine is 
being started and it kicks back while the the starter is engaged, that's reason 
to remove the starter and inspect the starter drive gear, starter clutch (if 
the starter has a clutch) and crankshaft gear for cracks and broken teeth.  I 
got lucky (for someone with really bad luck) in that the broken teeth didn't 
fall into the gear train in the accessory section and turn the entire engine 
into junk. Somehow the broken teeth made it to the oil sump without getting 
ingested into the gear train. I also got lucky in that I decided to fish a 
magnet around in the oil sump after we retimed the mags and ran the engine up.  
The engine ran up fine with the mags timed right, and with two chunks of steel 
gear teeth in the oil pan and with two big chunks missing out of the crankshaft 
gear.      
   
  Best Regards,

  Wayne DelRossi
  Alon Aircoupe N5618F

  Life begins at 50.... knots.

    


   


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