Dan;

Got paperwork for that?  If so, good for you as the current crop of misfits 
would make you jump through so many hoops for approval that you would go 
Experimental.

Now remember what John said about the engine is fed fuel by gravity from the 
header tank.  The header tank is fed by the fuel pump.  If you watch the wire 
you will have about 45 minutes of warning that you're running out.  By using 
that method you could save about 8 pounds of weight added by an electric fuel 
pump and all it's fixin's and not have to worry about buying an okay to not go 
on a diet.

Coop, is what you're saying the holdup on your releasing the 15 gallon mods 
again?  Sounds logical.  How expensive and rare is the O-200 mechanical pump?  
Different camshaft?

Al, Lovin' It, DeMarzo

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Caliendo Dan 
  To: John Cooper 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Ercoupe with 2 Electric Fuel Pumps on O200 Engine


  Yes, I have 2 fuel pumps; but only one is electric (I think). The original 
fuel 
  pump is engine driven as I understand it. The second fuel pump is for use
  only if the engine driven pump fails. I can't use it in flight without 
transferring 
  too much fuel to the left tank. I have the 2 9 gal wing tanks on a 415C with 
  a c-90 engine. I don't know why the previous owner installed the back up 
  fuel pump; but nice to know I can transfer the fuel from wing tanks to header
  if the engine driven pump fails.


  Dan Caliendo
  Ercoupe Mach 0.14
  3658H


  On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:43 PM, John Cooper wrote:


    >> Does anyone have an Ercoupe with 2 electric fuel pumps installed?

    I'm not sure what the point would be.

    The standard Ercoupe fuel system uses the engine driven pump to transfer
    fuel from the wing tanks to the header tank. Fuel feed to the engine is by
    gravity feed. No fuel pump is required. Since the engine driven pump is
    being used as a transfer pump, no backup pump is required.

    The O200 engine generally is not configured for an engine driven pump. The
    vast majority of O200 engines are installed in high wing planes and gravity
    fed, so the parts to drive an engine driven fuel pump are extremely rare and
    expensive. For this reason, the O200 STC allows the use of an electric
    transfer pump, but, again, since it is not feeding the engine, no backup
    pump is required.

    There is another STC to remove the header tank and install 2 15 gallon wing
    tanks instead. This STC requires the engine driven pump to feed fuel from
    the wing tanks to the carburetor, and, because it's feeding the carburetor,
    a backup pump is required. The backup pump is electric.

    Now, consider the combination of an O200 and the 15 gallon wing tanks.
    Since the O200 engine driven pump is a scarce and expensive option, could we
    instead use 2 electric pumps? Well, the answer is "no". The backup pump
    cannot be powered by the same electrical system as the main pump, so, baring
    dual alternators and batteries, this is not an option.

    So, I cannot think of a configuration where dual electric pumps would be
    called for.

    John Cooper
    Skyport Services
    www.skyportservices.net

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
    Behalf Of veropilot
    Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:46 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Ercoupe with 2 Electric Fuel Pumps on O200 Engine

    Does anyone have an Ercoupe with 2 electric fuel pumps installed?

    I recently saw a Coupe with 2 electric fuel pumps and no mechanical 
    engine driven fuel pump on an O200 engine.

    The Skyport O200 STC calls for just one electric fuel pump, if I recall 
    correctly.

    Look forward to hearing from anyone who is familiar with this type of 
    system.

    Jose Gibert
    Vero Beach

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