In my opinion the purpose of this list is to help owners and potential 
owners and/or
operators of the Ercoupe (et al) understand what the design is (and is 
not) capable of,
and how to best achieve same.  Everyone learns something here, sooner 
or later.

Not one of us was born knowing it all.  Some pick it up from available 
information (when
all else fails, read the Instructions).  Some need help locating 
"available information".

The "average" Ercoupe changes hands every five years (some "never" and 
some
much more often).  It is, therefore, natural and desirable that around 
400 "new" owners,
more than one a day, may have a legitimate need to raise one or more 
questions that
have been discussed before.  There are few questions posed here that 
are "new".

Just because a person has "advanced" to the point on a given subject 
that they believe
they have "heard it all" does not mean that someone else's query should 
not post or run
to its logical "conclusion", however parallel that may be to an earlier 
one on the same
subject.

The people who have "trouble" with the Ercoupe are NOT those who learn 
to fly in one
from a competent instructor thoroughly familiar with the design 
characteristics.  It is
forgiving enough that persons too unmotivated to understand the design 
characteristics
can "manhandle" (treat it like other three-control aircraft) a coupe 
the whole time they
own one without ever mastering its unique capabilities may "get away" 
with it.  It is
unfortunate that a newbie may be mislead by personal observations of 
such persons.

Quite frankly, during the six years I flew out of Corona in Southern 
California, I came to
know that there were certain times of the year that one did not know if 
they would face
challenging Santa Ana winds returning from a cross country flight.  To 
me, that meant
seeking out the "crosswind" runway at Riverside (a tower airport) for 
practice to improve
and maintain my crosswind proficiency.  Never, never had a problem; 
even later in high
crosswinds encountered in Kansas, New Mexico and Arizona.

Had I the slightest doubt in the superiority of the design in high 
crosswind operations, I
would have flown something "better".  Anyone know of a "better" design 
that the Ercoupe
for crosswind operations?  The pilots that continue to question the 
Ercoupe's crosswind
capabilities on this list should instead look in the mirror and address 
the real problem.

It is unfortunate but true that, at first glance, the opinions of those 
that have owned a coupe
more than, say, a year and STILL don't understand how to operate it 
properly in ALL
common flight conditions SOUND just as credible in an email as those 
that do.  It is for that
very reason that SOME of us on the list go out of our way (again and 
again) to make sure
information "most correct" (according to design history or other 
authoritative or logical
source "concludes" a thread so that newbies, our most vulnerable and 
impressionable
readers, can discern elements of "real truth" present in virtually all 
responses and put it
all together in proper context without surviving contradiction or 
inconsistency.

The myth that retrofitting a snubber is a "good thing" is one that 
obviously dies hard.  The
owner of a coupe with one may come to feel in threads such as this that 
their credibility is
"on the line".  That's true, in actuality.   Does anyone genuinely 
believe all posts on this list
equally credible?  Our credibility goes up or down day by day according 
to the pertinent
accuracy of each position we take on a given subject.

No one has ever identified one VALID advantage of fitting one.  The 
nose wheel can fall off?
NO!  Needed with the 9º up elevator limitation?  NO!  Forney fitted 
them?  NO!  Alon fitted
them?  Inconclusive, and inapplicable to birds delivered with the nose 
strut fairing.  Speed
improvement?  NO!  Improves landings?  NO!

What does that leave?  The defensive personal opinion of owners that 
have never landed a
coupe without one.   They find it comfortable, like a "teddy bear".  I 
have no objection to them
keeping their "teddy bear", but I want others to understand they don't 
need a "teddy bear".

A snubber takes away the obvious advantages of having full nose strut 
oleo operation,
extended steering authority during takeoff and landing, and the 1+ 
extra mph which results
from having the original nose strut fairing reduce drag.

While no thread should end so long as legitimate questions are being 
posed and answered,
anyone for PIZZA?

Regards,

WRB

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On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:56, James B. Brennan wrote:

> It seems to come up semiannually.  To snubber or not to snubber, that
> is the question;  whether 'tis nobler in the plane to honor Ed's
> recollection of Fred's design or take arms against a sea of dissenting
> letters.  I learned to fly (and, consequently, land) my Ercoupe with a
> cable on the nose gear, blithely ignorant of what a ponderous "issue"
> it has been taken to be (or not to be).  I am not nuts about the
> possibility of landing nose wheel first with the strut fully extended,
> albeit that might indicate hideous procedure.  I think this is a matter
> which has been flogged to death, and is on the floor bleeding.  We all
> have read about ad nauseam and I don't understand the continued raving
> and ranting.  To me, having been exposed to all sides of the arguments,
> it is a personal matter, and now makes for dreary reading, as this
> letter now surely is, sorry.  But, this list is like a merry-go-round -
> I guess fuels are up next.  More ad nauseam.
>
> Jim Beach Brennan

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