Hi Kim,

In relocating the trim, some have installed a Vernier knob on the panel. It is both handy and precise. That might give you the widest choice for ease of reach. The down side is, you can't mark a position...have to count the turns. The field approval for this was once available from Skyport. It was a nice modification.

When you speak of "neutral cruise trim" and leaving "it very neutral", you know what you mean but I don't ;<) Help?

If you refer to Ercoupe Service Memorandum No. 38, Sketch 4 illustrates the trim position that is substantially aligned with the elevator. If I say "forward", "nose down" or "cruise" trim, I am referring to a position very close to this, where the plane is trimmed for high speed flying at 115-125 MPH. Some might call this position "neutral" because the tab is aligned as an extension of the elevator and there is no "trim" effect on elevator position.

Others would look at the trim lever and envision three positions: Forward (nose down), Neutral (meaning midway between the extremes) and Back (nose high-in this position the plane is trimmed for a power off glide at 65-75MPH and a full power climb of 60-70 MPH. Obviously the plane would "handle" quite differently depending on which of
these different trim positions is "neutral" from your perspective.

In earlier emails I have described my use of the trim for "cruise-climb". Once set, all I do is take care of pointing the plane where I want it to go and leveling off at cruise altitude. Returning from cross country flight at 6-11,000', I use trim to descend to pattern altitude at, say 500-700 FPM and 125 MPH in smooth air and manouvering speed. From there I "fly it down" with trim restored to the "cruise" position; but you might prefer to set trim for a pattern descent of, say 350-500 FPM and 70-80 knots...whatever works best for you at your airport.

I tend to think of the combination of Ercoupe trim and throttle as the "poor man's autopilot". I set them to climb, maintain altitude, and descend to pattern altitude. My lower "workload" allows much greater attention to other things, such as "airport situational awareness" and radio communication. The yoke is used to rotate into flight, steer left or right, fly my pattern and approach, "handle" crosswinds, and reduce approach speed to minimum speed before
touchdown.  I'm sure it could work well for you too.

Best regards,

William R. Bayne
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(Copyright 2009)

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On Apr 19, 2009, at 21:09, Kim Blackseth wrote:

All...

Boy, was the below email helpful, thanks!  As a very low time pilot (80 hrs or so), all in my Ercoupe, I have been having trouble with a stabilized approach the last few weeks.  As many know, I'm a disabled pilot (quadriplegic) who passed his Private Pilot check ride with little trouble, only two months ago.

The last few weekends (today included) I feel like everything I learned about stable landing approaches has suddenly "escaped" me and I'm flying like some neurologically challenged idiot (wait...I am neurologically challenged!).

Because the trim handle is in a tough location for me to get to, I've generally flown the 'coupe in neutral cruise trim on all phases of flight.  I do make minor adjustments in level cruise, when workload is low, but generally leave it very neutral.

My approaches the last few weeks have been horrible. Not unsafe, but just plain "not up to standards".  Minor yoke adjustments on base and final have me ballooning or all over the place. I'm having a tough time hitting a "spot".

I think working on using the trim, as described below,has gotta happen, I can totally see the benefits outlined below! I'm going to relocate the trim cable and handle to a location that I can get to in higher workload conditions (with proper FAA and AI supervision, of course...)

Thanks for the info...

Kim Blackseth
N2332H

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