Folks.

 

Generators in cars had been replaced for a good reason. They don't produce 
juice at idle rpm.

 

Cars mostly wait in idle rpm on traffic lights. Especially since the seventies. 
With some load of wipers radios, headlights and turn signals, cars would drain 
batteries really fast.

 

Not so with airplanes.

When you fly you should have more than 2000 rpm going. That gives plenty of 
juice from a generator. And this will happen until you cut the power over the 
fence.

For the time before and after the flight, the battery takes over and the 
capacity of a battery is ample, even if you have to feed strobes , nav lights 
and a landing light on at the same time.

Now, my landing light has to go off after take off, but everything else can 
stay on and will not overload the capacity of the smallest Delco Remy generator.

 

One more thing. I know some guys can't wait to spend another 1k on their 
babies. Do it to the right things. Start saving for an engine overhaul - wing 
fabric recover - new interior. Something you really get a use from.

 

A new Alternator will be just working great and the owner is convinced his 
money is spent right, but a freshly overhauled Generator will do as well , last 
as long and is in most cases still up to the mission. 

 

If some repair shops can not figure out the dirt simple system of a 
generator/regulator combo, that does not speak well for them.

 

Hartmut
 


To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:46:59 +0000
Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Cessna/Ford Alternator STC

  



I am respectful of your opinions Jerry, however some of what you stated may not 
be things I totally agree with.
Generators were fine on Model A Fords and cars long ago when there were no 
alternators, but notice how quickly they were all replaced with alternators 
when alternators became available? I used to be in the auto repair business, 
and can attest that generators failed at a miserable rate, you could buy a 
replacement at any Western Auto store, alternators rarely fail. I would bet 
that nobody here has replaced their alternator on their car with an old 
generator. It took aircraft a little longer to get converted over, but they 
eventually did.
Costwise, more money has been spent by an IA troubleshooting my obsolete 
generator system than it would have cost to convert to a brand new alternator 
system - AND IT STILL DON"T WORK PROPERLY!
The added charging power may be needed by the addition of many things 
electrical that were not around in 1946. My Ercoupe friend has an original 
generator on his coupe that has been overhauled, and he still has to carry an 
extra fully charged battery with him to power his GPS, thei original system 
will not carry his entire load of strobes, radio, transponder with encorder, 
intercom, etc. That "solution" is not for me.

--- In [email protected], "Jerry Eichenberger" <jeichenber...@...> 
wrote:
>
> Ed -
> 
> I haven't participated in this discussion. I'm NOT a fan of alternators'
> replacing generators.
> 
> Many reasons:
> 
> 1. Coupes don't need that much current, so the idea that an alt. will
> produce juice a low rpm means little to me.
> 
> 2. Alts. fail suddenly, generators don't.
> 
> 3. If you drain your battery totally dead, you can't get an alt. to charge
> the battery. I know a Coupe is dangerous to prop, but in a real pinch, out
> in the boonies, if you have to get it started and have a gen., the gen. will
> start recharging the battery as soon as it's running.
> 
> 4. Gens. are far less expensive to overhaul, if your alt. can be repaired
> at all.
> 
> In essence, what are the upsides the the conversion? Only a few, very few,
> saved pounds of weight, and lots more expense and hassle with the alt.
> 
> Jerry E.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on
> Behalf Of ebengui...@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Cessna/Ford Alternator STC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> O.K.Gang,
> Now that we've bounced around on the alternator.
> What would be the best type of alternator to to replace my generator
> in my 415 G coupe with 85HP ? ( K I S S ) Suggestions are welcome.
> Thank you
> Ed
>




                                          
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