It is clear that some enjoy criticizing folks that respond to a poll and then want to call a valid response fighting or whining. They might enjoy the value of knowing what the purpose of a poll, rather than reflecting discredit when someone responds in a way that differs with some opinions. Course some folks don't want anyone to have a different opinion than theirs. Lee
I agree, I use the web interface and it is better with the reply to forum. The poll clearly show the majority like it going to the forum but as most often now a days we conform to the lowest common denominator or to the ones that whine the most so change it back so we can move on. I have to support users with IT problems at work and I'm not going to do it here. I'm sorry I ever brought it up and I am sure most people would rather get Hartmuts's post than mine anyway. Kevin1 --- In [email protected], "bigbrownpi...@..." <bigbrownpi...@...> wrote: > > OK, I understand now. It seems as if the folks who use an e-mail client to > read messages on the three Ercoupe sites are the ones most adversely affected > by the change. I would rather just surf the Yahoo message board than use > e-mail because I already get too much in my Inbox and that way I can scan > messages until I find the information I want. But once I figured out how the > pull-down menu worked, I had no problem with the old set-up as long as I > remembered to select whether I was replying to the individual who posted or > the entire group. Sometimes I had a misfire and had to re-post, but generally > no big deal. > > Personally, I would prefer a PhpBB-type forum (like the many car forums I've > belonged to over the years) to the Yahoo group, but hosting costs money if > you don't have sponsorship and the additional overhead for the > administrator/moderator is more demanding than a Yahoo site. > > If it helps those using e-mail, I'd say let's go back to the old way. This is > not worth arguing about-- we're supposed to be talking about flying and > fixing Er coupes here! > > > Best, > Dave > > > --- In [email protected], Hartmut Beil <hbeil@> wrote: > > > > > > Dave. > > > > I am using my email client that collaborates all of my e-mail accounts. > > > > I can't afford missing E-mails, so this is the solution. > > > > > > > > My Email client does not display the email address of the sender in full > > length. It just shows Dave in your case. > > > > When I copy and paste Dave the email address is not valid and e-mail is not > > sent. > > > > > > > > I can hack myself the email address out of the message, but that is a > > multiple step procedure that takes longer than writing a message. > > > > > > > > In essence , I am answering less often, since it is a hassle now for me. I > > think that questions should go to everyone on the Forum, but answers may or > > may not. > > > > There are many questions that I see taken care of by others, especially > > when they are common requests, then I am not interested to read through the > > long tail, that is repeating itself every few month. > > > > > > > > However. I am not here to lecture someone, nor to press him/her into my > > mold. > > > > > > > > I am just pointing out that the e-mail list now becomes less convenient for > > me and I am having to climb through rings of fire to just give someone a > > personal lengthily message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hartmut > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > From: bigbrownpilot@ > > Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:02:13 +0000 > > Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: New poll for ercoupe-tech > > > > > > > > > > > > Hartmut, > > > > It shows up on the Yahoo Groups Ercoupe Tech web page (actually on all the > > pages Ed moderates) in the To: block when you go to Post Message. The > > default is now ercoupe-tech@ The next selection is the e-mail address of > > the individual to whom you are replying, and the third is > > [email protected], which goes to Ed. I'm using IE 8.0 to > > view the message board. > > > > Hope that helps. > > Dave > > > > --- In [email protected], Hartmut Beil <hbeil@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dave. > > > > > > I don't have such pulldown. Can you name the software that is having that > > > feature? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hartmut > > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > From: bigbrownpilot@ > > > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 12:26:59 +0000 > > > Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: New poll for ercoupe-tech > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hartmut, > > > > > > I don't think Ed is talking about removing the option to reply directly > > > to an individual. It's just a matter of what the default is in the TO: > > > pull-down menu. Either way, misfires are bound to occur until everyone > > > gets used to it. We all just have to pay attention to what we have > > > selected in the pull-down. Personally, I would like to add a fourth > > > option that would allow me to reply to the message board and e-mail the > > > individual, but that would probably only confuse the issue even more. > > > > > > Best, > > > Dave > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Hartmut Beil <hbeil@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lee, all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing that any reply will send a message to the group as a whole > > > > reduces my willingness to answer . > > > > > > > > I am differentiating between a personal advice and information for > > > > general use. (That is burned onto public servers forever) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With removing the option of having a choice to whom reply, I am > > > > hesitating to give answers on a personal level - it is a hassle to get > > > > the personal e-mail address filtered out. > > > > > > > > I also noticed that the discussions that are held on a forced public > > > > level become more shallow, less technical and the forum IMO shifted > > > > toward a gray field of mediocrity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I usually found not one day go by without finding a reason to answer. > > > > Now I am watching the discussions for days and find no reason to add > > > > content. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think any type of restriction in this forum creates a new climate and > > > > a new quality of discussions. > > > > > > > > If the forum decides this is the way to go I will be the last one to > > > > stop anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a free thinking person, I like options and choice. 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