Sorry, John,

They're right.  Basic physics of angular momentum, the two momentum vectors 
cancel each other out.


John Carmack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>At 07:10 PM 9/19/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>At 09:01 PM 9/19/2002 -0500, John Carmack wrote:
>>
>>>With counter rotating blades you won't have any rolling torque, but you 
>>>will still have a gyroscopic stabilizing effect that will make it resist 
>>>changes in attitude.
>>
>>
>>         Actually, no. The angular momentum of each pair of 
>>counter-rotating engines cancels out, as long as they are spinning at the 
>>same rate. There will be slight gyroscopic effects when the two engines of 
>>a pair are at different throttle levels, but in the flight regime 
>>contemplated for Gizmocopter, these throttling differences will be slight 
>>and transient.
>>
>>         -p
>
>I'm not sure about that.  If you have a shaft with two wheels on it, 
>spinning either wheel either way will provide a gyroscopic "stiffness".  
>Two spinning wheels, even going opposite directions, should have twice the 
>stiffness, not none.
>
>I am far from an expert on gyroscopic effects, so I could be completely 
>wrong, but I don't think additional rotating masses can't help you do a 
>"plane change" of a rotating mass, so there is no way to cancel the 
>gyroscopic stabilization effect.
>
>John Carmack
>
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