On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:01:32 -0500, "Sean Patrick Daly"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I can't in any way, shape or form conceive HTP to be an explosive. (try to
>ignite it alone) That would mean LOX would also be an explosive. There's no
>way that the "Dubya" administration is going to force all those who store
>LOX to store it in a bunker. Every hospital around me has LOX tanks. NOS
>would also be an explosive.

First, and worst, your conceptions are of little interest to Congress,
the Bush Administration, or the ATF, unless you have expensive lawyers
to expound them for you, most likely in court.  Second, peroxide can
be made to explode if you work at it hard enough.  Third, peroxide
based explosive mixtures are already on the explosives list.  Fourth,
liquid oxygen explosives are already on the explosives list.  Fifth,
NOS can also be made to explode if you work at it hard enough.

Sixth, I do not put anything past this Administration or this
Congress.  If they want to make LOX users keep their LOX in bunkers,
they will.  After all, it would enhance the economy: someone would
have to build all those bunkers.  :-(

>I'm fairly confident reading the excerpts of the HSA that this will only
>affect explosive compounds, not compounds that can me made to be explosive.

APCP does not meet ATF's definition of an explosive.  Then why is it
on the explosives list?  That's the basis of NAR/TRA's lawsuit against
ATF.

>Taking a step back here, I think those of us in the states should be more
>worried about the rest of the bill, and how it will affect your life and
>privacy and less about the SEA.

I haven't read the entire bill.  I'm afraid it will further erode my
faith in the good intentions of my government.

>As for KISS, I'm sorry, but I believe that the solid propellant will fall
>under the SEA, and you will have to jump through more hoops to get her to
>fly.

I have received private e-mail to the effect that in California, at
least, existing practice is such that SEA may have little effect.  I
hope that turns out to be the case.

>Make sure you let us all know how the process goes, and what troubles you
>come across. I fly model rockets with a group of kids (I'm a great Dad :)
>and we fly again in spring. It would be great to know what kind of crap I'm
>going to run into beforehand.

Model rockets will continue to be unaffected by explosives
regulations; they don't meet the quantity threshold.  ATF regs kick in
at the H motor level, though they also cover G motor loads which can
be used in H motors.  In addition, black powder motors of up to 50
pounds powder mass are exempt.

-R

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