On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:19:12 +0100, Mark S. Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Kris Kowal <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:53 PM, David Herman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>    function Point(x, y) {
>        private x, y;
>        this.x = x;
>        this.y = y;
>        ...
>    }
>
> than
>
>    function Point(x, y) {
>        var _x = gensym(), _y = gensym();
>        this[_x] = x;
>        this[_y] = y;
>    }

I tend to disagree with most developers, so take it with a grain of
salt that I find the latter form, with all the implied abilities,
easier to understand.

I do too. While terseness clearly contributes to understandability,
regularity and simplicity do too. When these conflict, we should be very
careful about sacrificing regularity.

While I dislike the "private" syntax just as much, it does have the advantage of being statically detectable as using a private name, both "this.foo" in the scope
of "private foo", and "this[#.foo]".
The "gensym" syntax requires runtime checks to recognize that _x is a non-string
property name.


Currently is JS, x['foo'] and x.foo are precisely identical in all contexts. This regularity helps understandability. The terseness difference above is not an adequate reason to sacrifice it.

Agree. I would prefer something like x.#foo to make it obvious that it's not the
same as x.foo (also so you can write both in the same scope), and use
"var bar = #foo /* or just foo */; x[#bar]" for computed private name lookup. I.e. effectively introducing
".#", "[#" as alternatives to just "." or "[".

I'm not sure it's better to use an operator to reify the private name ("#foo") or it being directly
denotable ("foo") in an expression context. Both can be used.
In the latter case, x.#foo and x[#foo] would be equivalent.

/Lasse
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