On 3/11/2011 3:58 PM, Jeff Walden wrote:
On 03/11/2011 02:07 PM, Charles Kendrick wrote:
Your perspective is common in a group like this - very spec and standard 
focused. Isn't it
fun to bash those developers? Everyone's doing it.. I hope you realize it's 
irrelevant though?

Insinuating bad faith ("Isn't it fun" and "Everyone's doing it") may not be a 
successful
strategy for swaying others to your point of view. Just saying.

My apologies. It is frustrating to open a discussion with a proposal of what is best, and have it be redirected repeatedly into a discussion of who is to blame.

And I tend to agree with David Bruant about the makeup of the list being 
lightly-involved
developers, true standardistas, implementers, spec writers, and more: a fairly 
mixed bunch with
lots of different motivations and goals, to which few generalized sentiments 
can fairly be
attributed.

You're certainly correct that it's a mixed bunch of roles, but that's within the very narrow subset of developers who know about the standards process and care enough to be here.

However I would never attribute a general sentiment to any group, that's almost always wrong. I said a certain perspective would be more common. It's been my (repeated) personal experience that you get very different responses on a list devoted to standards than from (say) an enterprise development shop. Easily verified.
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