On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Brendan Eich <[email protected]> wrote:
> Brian Di Palma wrote: > >> Another mail that I expected to receive more attention that hasn't... > > @Brian, This is the second time you've opened a thread reply with a rebuke regarding (lack of) speedy of response. Just saying... > > For some reason my mail program doesn't thread your reply to my o.p. Here > it is in the archive, FWIW: > > https://mail.mozilla.org/**pipermail/es-discuss/2013-**April/029969.html<https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2013-April/029969.html> > > > We're London based so we had attendants at JQueryUK and the announcement >> of >> private class state in ES6 was a surprise, a pleasant one but still >> surprising. >> >> Is it the case that the announcement was jumping the gun? >> > > Rembmer, my words were that "I threw up a sketch" -- not a final > masterpiece, not the Mona Lisa. > > However as your meeting notes excerpts show, we still don't quite have > consensus on classes _per se_, without including private syntax in ES6. > > This is an agenda item for the upcoming TC39 meeting. We should try to > build on the work by Mark and Tom at > > http://wiki.ecmascript.org/**doku.php?id=strawman:**relationships<http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=strawman:relationships> > > and make progress, whether that work ends up in ES6 or ES7 for prudential > reasons. > > > Needless to say for programming with large code bases it would be >> excellent to have private state. >> > > Agreed! The introduction of class in ES6 should not be blocked (or postponed until ES7) by a lack of class (specific) private declaration form. I understand and appreciate Brendan's remarks re: double-blind consensus, but politely disagree with the notion that we _must_ produce a specific syntactic form when private state can be achieved with the use of a WeakMap or a Symbol: https://gist.github.com/rwldrn/5478221 I've always been an @-name supporter and have had a pending revisitation agenda item for the last two meetings, deferred in favor of the bigger fish we had to fry ;) Rick
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