Mark, As I've already said, I can live with "Turn". It's big advantage is that it completely avoids confusion with the HTML Task/Micro-task concepts.
Allen On Mar 4, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Mark S. Miller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock <al...@wirfs-brock.com> > wrote: > > On Mar 3, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Mark S. Miller wrote: > >> Is "chore" better than "turn"? >> > > Mark, to me "turn", as a noun, sounds like a "scheduling slot" rather than > the thing that gets scheduled into the slot. For example: "in the next turn, > we will run the handler for promise p". The thing that gets enqueue is "the > task of running the handler for promise p" rather than the "turn in which p > get handled". > > Now its just a word that we are assigning our own meaning to, so we can use > "turn" if we want. But is that equivalence of "turn" and "task" really what > you're used to, and something whose meaning is intuitive enough? > > In a time slicing or real-time system, in which future scheduling slots are > (even approximately) pre-allocated to specific future times, drawing such a > distinction makes sense. But in a run-to-completion event-loop system such as > E and JavaScript, I have never found the need for this distinction, and I > think it would cause more confusion than it would avoid. The future > scheduling slot really has no existence apart from the activity which is > scheduled to take place within this slot. > > The <http://erights.org> website, several of my papers[1], and papers by > others[2] make use of the "turn" terminology I'm suggesting. I have gotten > many questions about many issues over the years about this material, but I > have never encountered confusion caused by the choice of the term "turn", nor > by the absence of a distinction between the scheduling slot and the activity > that takes place in this slot. If the authors of some of these other papers > have a contrary experience, please post. Thanks. > > [1] http://research.google.com/pubs/pub40673.html > http://research.google.com/pubs/pub35127.html > http://erights.org/talks/promises/paper/tgc05.pdf > http://erights.org/talks/thesis/markm-thesis.pdf > > [2] http://soft.vub.ac.be/Publications/2013/vub-soft-tr-13-05.pdf > http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2010/HPL-2010-155.html > http://scholarworks.sjsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1230&context=etd_projects > https://www.usenix.org/conference/atc12/technical-sessions/presentation/yoo > http://soft.vub.ac.be/~tvcutsem/invokedynamic/presentations/T37_nobackground.pdf > https://code.google.com/p/ambienttalk/wiki/EssenceOfAmbientTalk > > > > > > > Allen > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > --MarkM
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