> > Le 30 mars 05, à 23:57, Alex Perez a écrit : >>> >>> Alex will be upset :-/ >> >> Why would I be upset? That makes no sense. I do, however, think that if >> you choose a foreign-sounding (far more to an American's ear than to >> that >> of an Englishman) you will effectively be placing yourself at a >> distinct >> disadvantage in the American "market", as it were. It's not my project. >> It's yours (collectively). I have ultimately no authority, but I really >> think you will not be doing the project a favor in terms of >> marketability >> within the USA (I can't vouch for elsewhere, because I live here). > > uh.. but are we really targeting a "market" here ??? > What do you mean, it reminds of France, so Americans will bash us ? > Well I'm not sure I'm so interested by theses kind of developers :-) > small mind, small code
No, it's nothing that ridiculously simple, and it's entirely possible that I am wrong...what concerns me much more about what you just said above, I address below. If you are still stuck in such a developer centric worldview, I can't help but think that Etoile will never get off the ground. Nobody said *ANYTHING* about *developers*. You assumed that, and IMHO that's not a good thing. If you are marketing this desktop environment only towards developers, you had better make that decision consciously now, instead of pretending that you will be making a DE for non-development users. I didn't think this was the goal of Etoile, but perhaps I am missing something... > >>> Nicolas has done a quick poll, British people prefer Étoilé to >>> Resonance, may be Étoilé is not so bad. >> >> I never said it was :) I like the name, personally, but I do not think >> it >> would be generally received well by many (most?) Americans. That's not >> something I can really change, even though I happen to think it's lame. > > Hm, but we're not doing a desktop for the "americans".. are we ? No, of course not, but on the flipside, you're also not doing one for Frenchmen only, are you? :) Etoile has no meaning at all for 99% of all Americans. That's all I am asking that you consider. It had nothing to do with a subset of them not liking French people, or anything else this silly or ridiculously nationalistic. > > I'm not sure the fact that the name doesn't sound american is in itself > a bad thing; > after all it's simple, short, easy to remember ;-) -- and we're not > considering the > "american market" : it's a worldwide free software project after all ;-) > > Frankly, I expect people to be more interested by the possibilities of > the system > than by its name ! else nobody would use KDE or Exposé ;-) > > I'm not particularly interested by keeping étoilé or ditching it -- but > : > 1) it seems that people on the list (and banlu) don't care Well, here, I must say this is false. Banlu does seem to care, else he would not have repeatedly advocated against the use of the name Resonance. > 2) most people seems to prefer étoilé to resonance Do they? The information posted to the list earlier this morning by someone (not me) seemed to indicate the reverse was actually true. > 3) no other unanimously celebrated name proposition came up :-/ I thought the whole point of changing the name was because two projects were merging, and developing a new name was supposed to reflect this, and be fair to both parties (at least that was my understanding from some IRC discussions). But if both parties are really okay with it, then I guess it doesn't matter. > 4) it's less work to keep it considering #3 > > ... So frankly, and if no other good reasons or names come up, I think > we'll just keep étoilé/etoile.
