My older version has entitled me to free upgrades to this very day.  I have 
upgraded from Toast 4 all the way to the current 5.  It was actually Adaptec 
who offered me the upgrades and I can tell you that I was using version 5 
two days ago before my computer crashed.  You don't realize that you were 
the one making the accusations buddy.  I was only looking for help, not a 
fight.  I am very peaceful person and would appreciate if you would stop 
this argument and maybe once would offer a WOB to the group (as I have as an 
apology).

That is the end.  Please do not respond.

I do apologize to the group for the waste of bandwidth.

WOB: 10 B and P's for the first to respond.


>From: Jeff Hergan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "BACR Shaft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [etree] RE: ISO Toast
>Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:24:35 -0600
>
>
>On Sunday, February 17, 2002, at 04:12 PM, BACR Shaft wrote:
>
>>Let me clear something up here.  Toast came bundled with my burner that
>>I bought two years ago.  I have been updating the software since (along
>>with OS X for my MAC and all my system software).  The disc that came
>>with my burner is now obsolete for me.
>
>Toast came bundled with my LaCie 4x burner--Toast 3x.  In 1998.
>That's obsolete on my OS X machine.
>
>
>>
>>I would not steal software and resent the allegation.
>
>Well, if you have an earlier version of Toast, that does not entitle you
>to free upgrades.
>If it did, Toast would have offered it on their site (www.roxio.com,
>IIRC).
>So maybe you're just unknowledgeable about the subject, but you're wrong.
>What you just asked for is for someone to assist you in committing a
>federal crime.
>
>
>>I figured that there is no better place to get some help in burning
>>cd's than a group dedicated to the proliferation of good music.
>>
>
>Agreed.
>
>>I have been using this group for a long time and have met and dealt
>>with many good people.  Unfortunately, there are some people who look
>>only at the negative side of things and jump to conclusions about other
>>people.  I wish that these people could spend more time trying to be
>>nice and help people rather than accusing them of stealing.  It is
>>really uncalled for.
>
>Oooh.  Sorry.  I guess I just look at the negative side of people:
>1.  Using etree lists to openly violate federal copyright law
>2.  Asking someone to engage in a conspiracy with you to break those laws
>3.  Making silly accusations about someone you don't know.
>
>What you know about me:  I think you made a serious error in asking this
>list to help you steal software (and ignorance of the law is not an
>excuse).
>
>What I know about you:  You asked the etree discussion list to help you
>steal software.
>
>Whether you like it or not, this is not the place to make such requests.
>It's off-topic.  It's against the law.
>And whether you agree with a software company's upgrade policy, or
>whether you think you're entitle to every future release of Toast is
>irrelevant.
>
>Those who know me on this list (and on the siteop's list) know that I am
>as helpful as I can be when people ask for help.  I agree that some
>folks look only at the negative and are quick to flame.  But that aint
>me, brother.  You stepped over a serious line here, and you owe the list
>an apology.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>>
>>Sorry for this WOB, I just felt the need to respond.  Sorry.
>>
>>WOB, 3 B and P's from my list: (assuming that I can ever get the
>>software I once had to burn Cd's again)
>>
>>db.etree.org/phabphour20
>>
>>-Shaft
>>
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>Jeffrey P. Hergan, Ph.D
>Adjunct Professor of Philosophy
>Saint Xavier University
>Chicago
>




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