On Sunday, February 17, 2002, at 04:32 PM, BACR Shaft wrote:

> My older version has entitled me to free upgrades to this very day.  I
> have upgraded from Toast 4 all the way to the current 5.  It was
> actually Adaptec who offered me the upgrades and I can tell you that I
> was using version 5 two days ago before my computer crashed.  You don't
> realize that you were the one making the accusations buddy.  I was only
> looking for help, not a fight.  I am very peaceful person and would
> appreciate if you would stop this argument and maybe once would offer a
> WOB to the group (as I have as an apology).

OK.  I know you said 'don't reply', but being who I am, I will anyway.

Based on what it says at the roxio site, I was fairly certain that you
had to recently purchase Toast 4 Deluxe to get a free upgrade.  The
versions that ship with drives are typically not the Deluxe version.
Their site bears this out.  Maybe they made some sort of exception here
and I should have been less irritable in my reply.
So I apologize--this all should have been off-list anyway.  And kinder
(on my part).

And Braverman, you can eat my shorts, buddy!  Negative?  Me????  ;-)
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> That is the end.  Please do not respond.
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Too late ;-)

My WOB will be a login to phabphour to my server.  The rest of you
already have the login info from my last announce.

Peace,
Jeff



> I do apologize to the group for the waste of bandwidth.
>
> WOB: 10 B and P's for the first to respond.
>
>
>> From: Jeff Hergan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "BACR Shaft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [etree] RE: ISO Toast
>> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:24:35 -0600
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 17, 2002, at 04:12 PM, BACR Shaft wrote:
>>
>>> Let me clear something up here.  Toast came bundled with my burner
>>> that
>>> I bought two years ago.  I have been updating the software since
>>> (along
>>> with OS X for my MAC and all my system software).  The disc that came
>>> with my burner is now obsolete for me.
>>
>> Toast came bundled with my LaCie 4x burner--Toast 3x.  In 1998.
>> That's obsolete on my OS X machine.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I would not steal software and resent the allegation.
>>
>> Well, if you have an earlier version of Toast, that does not entitle
>> you
>> to free upgrades.
>> If it did, Toast would have offered it on their site (www.roxio.com,
>> IIRC).
>> So maybe you're just unknowledgeable about the subject, but you're
>> wrong.
>> What you just asked for is for someone to assist you in committing a
>> federal crime.
>>
>>
>>> I figured that there is no better place to get some help in burning
>>> cd's than a group dedicated to the proliferation of good music.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> I have been using this group for a long time and have met and dealt
>>> with many good people.  Unfortunately, there are some people who look
>>> only at the negative side of things and jump to conclusions about
>>> other
>>> people.  I wish that these people could spend more time trying to be
>>> nice and help people rather than accusing them of stealing.  It is
>>> really uncalled for.
>>
>> Oooh.  Sorry.  I guess I just look at the negative side of people:
>> 1.  Using etree lists to openly violate federal copyright law
>> 2.  Asking someone to engage in a conspiracy with you to break those
>> laws
>> 3.  Making silly accusations about someone you don't know.
>>
>> What you know about me:  I think you made a serious error in asking
>> this
>> list to help you steal software (and ignorance of the law is not an
>> excuse).
>>
>> What I know about you:  You asked the etree discussion list to help you
>> steal software.
>>
>> Whether you like it or not, this is not the place to make such
>> requests.
>> It's off-topic.  It's against the law.
>> And whether you agree with a software company's upgrade policy, or
>> whether you think you're entitle to every future release of Toast is
>> irrelevant.
>>
>> Those who know me on this list (and on the siteop's list) know that I
>> am
>> as helpful as I can be when people ask for help.  I agree that some
>> folks look only at the negative and are quick to flame.  But that aint
>> me, brother.  You stepped over a serious line here, and you owe the
>> list
>> an apology.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for this WOB, I just felt the need to respond.  Sorry.
>>>
>>> WOB, 3 B and P's from my list: (assuming that I can ever get the
>>> software I once had to burn Cd's again)
>>>
>>> db.etree.org/phabphour20
>>>
>>> -Shaft
>>>
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