Peter Braverman wrote: > 1. The implication that American jobs are somehow "worth more" than other > people's jobs is vulgar and juvenile.
That was not the implication. Don't get into name calling. That's dehumanizing, and I'm a nice guy. The point is that people I know are underemployed and supporting an American company like Kodak is a way to help my friends and family. There is nothing wrong with wanting to help my family prosper. There is nothing wrong with wanting my country to be successful. My country does a lot to help the world because of it's successful economy, and I support efforts to make our economy strong. > People in other countries suffer when > they are unemployed and prosper when their economies do well. It is only by > accident of birth that most of us on this list are Americans. It's not an accident but a choice that was made by my ancestors. They supported America as do I. I am not suggesting people buy Kodak products out of patriotic reasons. I suggest that Kodak, being an American company, is more likely to benefit Americans by way of jobs and side orders thus helping our economy, our way of life, our values, and my family. > 2. The "American Way" is to support those products you think are best. Yes, that's a first year economics point of view that's valid. People could argue that Nike shoes are better than others. People could also argue that buying Nike shoes supports the poor treatment of children in other countries. People could argue that Mitsubishi VCRs are the best in their price range, but buying those would mean supporting a company that destroys more rain forest in South America than any other. Products made in America are required to conform to certain social taxes and constraints. We attempt to harm ourselves and our environment less than other countries do. > If > people perceive that American products are better than Japanese products, > they will buy them. If not, American companies should make better products, > not appeal to people's false sense of patriotic duty. Some phantom American company is not appealing "to people's false sense of patriotic duty" in this thread. I am asking people to consider helping American businesses in an effort to help themselves. > There is no long-term > benefit when inferiority is rewarded, in the car industry, the steel > industry, or the CDR industry. I am not suggesting that you support what you feel is inferior. I agree that a free market economy works well. This thread is not about cars, steel, or inferior products. It's about Kodak and Fuji and how one of them can help our economy and the other drains it. > 3. The cost argument is a red herring. Nobody made a cost argument. I guess you are drifting this because you are angry about something, but I don't know what. Don't do that if you want to have this discussion with me. > Why on earth should an America > company charge MORE for a product than a foreign company, which has to pay > export fees, import duties (in some cases), and transportation costs? Makes > me feel like Kodak is gouging people. I'm sorry you feel that way. This thread is not meant to be about your feelings. > 4. I actually do buy Kodaks -- because I find them more reliable than the > others, and in spite of the fact that the company has frittered away its > long-time competitive advantage over the last decade. I doubt either of us is qualified to discuss Kodak's last 10 years. I am suggesting people consider buying Kodak because they are a good, respected, and cherished American business, which would help our economy. > You're deluding > yourself if you think a few thousand CDs have anything to do with Kodak's > demise, compared to years of myopic management. On the contrary, Sir, I am not deluding myself, nor do I share your analysis. I have not offered the conclusion you seem so ready to put into my mouth. You may want to reread my post. > 5. Oh, by the way, Kodak discs are made in Mexico, not America. I didn't attempt to analyze where the discs are made and what the affects of that are. I ask people to consider Kodak during their next cdr/camera purchase because they are in a tough competition with Fuji and they continue to make good products. > In fact, the > Mexicans may be on to something, because my Volkswagen was made in Mexico as > well and it's terrific. And you can damn well believe that if Chevy made > something remotely as appealing for the same cost, I'd buy it. > > pb I don't care for your "damn well" tone. It implies that I'm not capable of respecting your decision to buy a car of your choice and that swearing at me would force me to believe you more, based upon some implied threat of your being tough or my being damned for thinking otherwise. Keep this discussion civil, if you can. You are stretching credibility here. Regards, Matthew > Gigantic WOB tax: Brand-new seed of GD 7-7-89 SBD in SHN or audio format to > the first three who correctly answer this question: Which company, Honda or > Ford, produces a greater percentage of their American-sold vehicles in > America by the hands of American workers? Delete "[etree]" from your > response. No responses after 5:00 eastern. Weiners only notified. > > > > On 3/23/02 3:18 PM, "Matt Schalit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Fujfilm blank cdr discs are often made by Taiyo Yuden, >>making them a popular choice with traders. >> >> I'd just like to point out that by supporting Fuji, >>people are contributing to Kodak's demise. If you feel >>underemployed these days and live in the USA, you might >>consider supporting American companies in an effort to >>produce more local jobs. >> >> If you're not willing to spend the extra money on >>Kodak Ultima Gold cdrs or don't like them, you still >>might consider some Kodak film when shopping for camera >>supplies next time. >> >>Regards, >>Matthew >> >>_______________________________________________ >>etree.org etree mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>http://mail.etree.org/mailman/listinfo/etree >> >>Need help? Ask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > _______________________________________________ > etree.org etree mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://mail.etree.org/mailman/listinfo/etree > > Need help? Ask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ etree.org etree mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://mail.etree.org/mailman/listinfo/etree Need help? Ask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
