I've never used the r services, but here are some suggestions:

are the r servers actually running? pa ax, etc
are your ports open?  nmap 127.0.0.1
Can you rlogin to 127.0.0.1
Can you telnet to the r-server ports either remotely, or to 127.0.0.1
When I was using mandrake, I noticed that they did something so that
services such as telnet and ftp 'waited' for 5-10 seconds before answering a
connect.  I assumed this was to help prevent someone from sucessfully brute
forcing a login with an automated script.  I never found out where to turn
that off, but this may be something to look for.

Cory


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From: Garl R. Grigsby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Problems with rlogin


Yes the 'r' services are running in inetd.conf.  There is nothing in
host.deny. Yes I want to enable this. I running this machine on internal
network and we are sitting behind a checkpoint firewall so attacks from
external sources are not a concern. Internal attacks I am not too concerned
with as most of the people smart enough to initiate an attack already have
access to this machine.  SSH is great but a rather large pain in the ass to
setup, so I want to avoid this. All of our unix workstations all use the
commands, so many scripts are already written to use these tools. Any other
ideas?

Garl

>
> Are the "r" services enabled in /etc/inetd.conf?  Are they blocked in
> /etc/hosts.deny?  Are you sure you want this gaping security hole, when
> you could be using ssh?
>
> --
> On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament!], `Pray,
> Mr.  Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right
> answers come out?'  I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of
> confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.--Charles Babbage

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