Seth wrote:
>Oh I understand.  That was why I mentioned it.
>The problem (as we've run into before in
>discussions here on the list) is that the
>infrastructure costs are pretty high, and I truly
>wonder if a 'free' service can be done long term,
>or in any organized fashion.

Are the infrastructure costs that high?  What I've been thinking about is
more of a movement of garage computer hobbyists, much like your average LUG.
Basically a home user who happens to have decent bandwidth, say a DSL to
their house, that decides to make say 10k or 20k available to any public
user.  So the potential target of a node admin would be a home user who has
bandwidth.  They might want to buy a card to handle the routing and find
some old box to hook it up to, is there more infrastructure that I'm not
thinking about?

I guess the difference between a guerilla wireless network and a corprate,
or psuedo-public (local-government?) network would definatly be security.
For a citizen/hobbyiest build guerilla network I could care less about
security.  As long as the wireless access point issolated the wireless
devices from the internal network that the access point might be hooked up
to, I wouldn't really care what the end user was doing with the connection,
or if I did care, I could install/use some logging software to monitor
activity a bit, then block a card if I felt the need. I'm sure starbucks, or
anyone else would not be so trusting...

>I was discussing this today with KBob, in fact,
>and trying to figure out a good way to
>track/charge, since so many spoofing/sharing
>possiblities arise.
>I'm really interested how Starbucks plans on
>doing this, among others who plan on selling
>access.  I'm still mulling it over, and would
>welcome ideas people think of, even if only to
>play devil's advocate so we can rule them out...

>Seth



Jim





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