i personally would suggest killing the "activism" list.  it is hardly ever
used.  kill the other lists as well.  next, i think we should split the
mailing list into two.  one may be called "Opinions" or some such.  the
other should just simply be EugLug.

thus :

   EUGLUG would simply be the technical forum and announcement board.  a
general list for questions related to linux and it's use and a discussion
board for how-tos, installation, hardware issues, etc...  also for
announcement of new distros, meetings, programs, your child's first command
line experience, whatnot.

   OPINIONS would be people asking about other's experience with certain
programs, hardware, computer stores, etc... that should not be on the main
mailing list.  since it also encompasses peoples opinions, it could be used
for a activism" or political discussion as well.

that way, we have two mailing lists to subscribe to, instead of eighty
billion little ones that try to cover every known topic.  unfortunately,
moderating the list then becomes the task of us all.  if someone posts an
opinion to the EUGLUG list, all replies should be sent to OPINIONS.  people
will get the idea.  if you don't care about other's opinions (it's not to be
taken like that...) you can simply subscribe to EUGLUG only.  that way, you
get your daily dose and don't have to wade through people flaming each other
over the computer stores they like (or whatever it is this week...)

as an aside, i appologize for anything i've said, but i do have my life
experiences, and they may differ from yours.  THIS is why i'd like to see an
opinion list.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: larry a price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:43 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [EUG-LUG:106] Dexter's Query (was Fry's)
> 
> 
> I'm tempted to be smartassed and say something like 
> Why don't we start a eug-lug-tech list so that we don't clutter the
> main list with useless technical questions that no one can answer?
> 
> On the one hand, I do sort of understand where dexter's coming from
> and wouldn't want to squelch that kind of energy. On the 
> other hand I do
> sort of see a certain decline in the overall level and tone of the
> postings on the list within the past several months with opinions
> being expressed for shock value (or entertainment value) and 
> reasonably
> serious technical questions going unanswered, or being answered in a
> flippant smug manner that makes us all look like snotty brats with
> keyboards.
> 
> My Question:
> How can we use this list (as a group) to grow our knowledge (as
> individuals) of unix/gnu/linux programming / admin /hardware.
> 
> 
> http://www.efn.org/~laprice        ( Community, Cooperation, Consensus
> http://www.opn.org                 ( Openness to serendipity, 
> make mistakes
> http://www.efn.org/~laprice/poems  ( but learn from 
> them.(carpe fructus ludi)
> http://allie.office.efn.org/phpwiki/index.php?OregonPublicNetworking
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Dexter Graphic wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Ben Barrett wrote:
> > > I personally think this thread should move to another list
> > > altogether!
> > 
> > Why is it that you think a discussion of ethics, freedom, 
> > openness, and enhanced human creativity (the achievement of
> > real advances in civilization) does not belong on this list? 
> > In my view it is the very essence of what the free software 
> > community and open-source movement is all about.
> > 
> > Dexter
> > 
> 
> 

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