justin bengtson wrote: >On Wed, 2002-01-09 at 12:15, Jim Beard wrote: > > >so theoretically you can use sawfish and gnome on OS X? awesome. gotta >go knock off a couple of convenience stores so's i can buy a mac... > I wanted to point out here that using xwindows on OS X seems to *ruin* the beautiful seamlessness that OS X tries to give you -- as a technut, I can follow a demonstration and see that the interface is usable, but for some Mac user, the context switching would be all too much!! I refer to the UI contexts, whose separateness becomes painfully evident if you use such features as viewpane/virtual desktops. Jim pointed out to me earlier that the native Mac apps are effectively "sticky" and appear on all virtual desktops; the xwindows apps don't fit into the desktop quite right IMHO, either -- the window manager you choose defines what the window frames & controls look and operate like. Also, when using an xwindows app in the foreground, you can't bring your wharf/dock back up until you click on an OS X part of the screen to give UI control "back" to xwindows. As an xwindows user, again, I can follow the logic, but it's enough to give non-techies the willies!!
I see a OSX-native VNC client as a better solution: I'd rather have my xwindows apps be more seamless (this would be difficult for frameless apps like xmms or gkrellm) and appear as part of the OS X environment... so I'd run them on another box!! ouch. Not to say that OS X doesn't push the envelope... just that I'm not excited to buy into the hype yet. .... >>I used macs back when I was in high school, but I haven't even really >>touched one since mac os 7.2 or so. But os X has converted me back. >> > >same here. i've done a _little_ tech support in OS 8, but that's as far >as i've gone. if i could afford one, i'd love to get a newer Mac, but >right now i'm stuck with what i have. > >i suppose i could grunge around for or build some really spiffy looking >case, install OpenBSD and pretend i have a mac... > Uhh, huh-huh. Check the [just-closed] slash poll: looks like the winningest name for the the imac is "iDoorStop". Spiffy indeed, to [/.'s] public opinion... Don't give up to vanity! NOT TO SAY that they aren't good 'puterz: the #2 winner is "iHopeItRunsYellowDog" ;-) An 800Mhz G4 would outperform my Athlon950 by a good bit, I'd guess. I've got a poll question: How long until OS X code leaks and is ported to x86? a) Inside 6 months b) Between 6 months - 1 year c) More than 1 year d) Will never leak e) This poll will change Apple's mind, official port avail. in ____ months. Apple has a much better record than M$, as far as corporate leaks go, but with such an avid OS X community -- and the majority of the technical expertise behind it coming from the *nix community... I've been wondering. cheers Ben
