On Tuesday 19 November 2002 05:13 am, you wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 04:35:38PM -0800, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > > I would still absolutely love to see a presentation on configuring CUPS
> > > the hard way.
> >
> > Why?  Perhaps you should read the sources for lpadmin and some IPP
> > documentation.
>
> Have you actually looked at the CUPS documentation?  It's terrible!  That
> said, I did manage to figure out how it all works, and could probably help
> someone else do it now, but it was a total pain to do the first time.
>
> > > Most dists still use lpr or lprng, and CUPS is an all
> > > around better print system.
> >
> > Well, again, read the sources and docs.  Both have their "optimal"
> > uses.  At an OpenBSD hackathon, lpr/lpd was used to spool mp3s ...
> > CUPS is not really that flexible.
>
> I think ... um ... I think this is not what lpr was intended for.  =)
>
> > > This is especially useful since CUPS is
> > > available for Linux and other UNIX platforms, is the standard print
> > > system used by MacOS X, and CUPS can cooperate with Windows relatively
> > > easily once you actually configure it.
> > >
> > > Like everything else, there many options for filtering whatever type of
> > > input you have and turning it into postscript..
> >
> > Yes, CUPS does make things "simpler", and AFAIK, the is only IPP
> > implementation for *nix.
>
> Nothing is simpler than magicfilterconfig, really.  Getting from here to
> there, however, is not so trivial.
>
> Consider:
>
> - Several distributions now use CUPS
> - Those which don't probably offer it or will soon
> - MacOS X uses CUPS
> - Windows 2000/XP use Internet Printing Protocol
> - CUPS supports talking to and listening to lpd servers
>
> All in all, there aren't many reasons to use anything else anymore for
> printing.  =)

How about "I can't get it to work with my printer."  This sounds like a 
pretty good reason for not using it to me.  And yes I brought my computer and 
printer to a clinic and no one else could get it to work with CUPS either.  
And yes I have the ppd file for my printer and yes it works under Windows and 
yes it used to work under Linux before all the distro started switching to 
CUPS.

Just because a piece of crap is readily available doesn't mean it is a good 
choice.
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