try to get the print working with out queueing and/or different spooler.
Then if you can get it working, switch back saving the configuration. That
worked for mo on one printer that cups didn't take right off.
Jim K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Loobey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]Presentations


> On Tuesday 19 November 2002 05:13 am, you wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 04:35:38PM -0800, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> > > > I would still absolutely love to see a presentation on configuring
CUPS
> > > > the hard way.
> > >
> > > Why?  Perhaps you should read the sources for lpadmin and some IPP
> > > documentation.
> >
> > Have you actually looked at the CUPS documentation?  It's terrible!
That
> > said, I did manage to figure out how it all works, and could probably
help
> > someone else do it now, but it was a total pain to do the first time.
> >
> > > > Most dists still use lpr or lprng, and CUPS is an all
> > > > around better print system.
> > >
> > > Well, again, read the sources and docs.  Both have their "optimal"
> > > uses.  At an OpenBSD hackathon, lpr/lpd was used to spool mp3s ...
> > > CUPS is not really that flexible.
> >
> > I think ... um ... I think this is not what lpr was intended for.  =)
> >
> > > > This is especially useful since CUPS is
> > > > available for Linux and other UNIX platforms, is the standard print
> > > > system used by MacOS X, and CUPS can cooperate with Windows
relatively
> > > > easily once you actually configure it.
> > > >
> > > > Like everything else, there many options for filtering whatever type
of
> > > > input you have and turning it into postscript..
> > >
> > > Yes, CUPS does make things "simpler", and AFAIK, the is only IPP
> > > implementation for *nix.
> >
> > Nothing is simpler than magicfilterconfig, really.  Getting from here to
> > there, however, is not so trivial.
> >
> > Consider:
> >
> > - Several distributions now use CUPS
> > - Those which don't probably offer it or will soon
> > - MacOS X uses CUPS
> > - Windows 2000/XP use Internet Printing Protocol
> > - CUPS supports talking to and listening to lpd servers
> >
> > All in all, there aren't many reasons to use anything else anymore for
> > printing.  =)
>
> How about "I can't get it to work with my printer."  This sounds like a
> pretty good reason for not using it to me.  And yes I brought my computer
and
> printer to a clinic and no one else could get it to work with CUPS either.
> And yes I have the ppd file for my printer and yes it works under Windows
and
> yes it used to work under Linux before all the distro started switching to
> CUPS.
>
> Just because a piece of crap is readily available doesn't mean it is a
good
> choice.
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