Speaking of all this, isn't it accurate to say that telnet'ing in to
ANYONE else's mail servers, without their expressed consent, violates
some of the more recent laws (dmca or patriot act?)...??  Granted most
people on this list are rebels and all, but wouldn't it be wise to
advise people AGAINST spoofing authentication, even if for
"edumacational" purposes, on anyone else's servers?

And by the way, my mind has changed back:  telnet SUCKS.
netcat (nc) is the New King.

Really, the example showing connection to a mail server is not an evil
one, but I would think it wise to provide a disclaimer, stating that "I
am sysadmin on this box" or "I have permission, so only try this on YOUR
OWN box".  Not that I've heard of any criminal action against those who
test the configurations of mail servers... but just good respectful
common sense.  Does anyone want to attempt a consensus, or even a sort
of vote, on this?  Does anyone want to actively protest the DMCA or
Patriot Act as an organization?

ben

PS - speaking of how cool nc is, does anyone have any experience, or
cool scripts that use it that they could share?  Seems like it would be
a more-appropriate tool for checking on your webservers, Cory; but then
again, what works, works.

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