On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:19 pm, Ben Barrett wrote: : Speaking of all this, isn't it accurate to say that telnet'ing in to : ANYONE else's mail servers, without their expressed consent, violates : some of the more recent laws (dmca or patriot act?)...?? Granted most : people on this list are rebels and all, but wouldn't it be wise to : advise people AGAINST spoofing authentication, even if for : "edumacational" purposes, on anyone else's servers? I dont think that specificly is bad behavour, just like I dont think drinking is bad behavour, however drinking and driving is bad behavour. : : And by the way, my mind has changed back: telnet SUCKS. Telnet doesnt suck, its not evil, its not bad. Its a simple tool that offers no protection (ie encryption), and as such can only be used safely in certain curcumstances.
EFN/OPN has in the past been a community network, and the ideals of the network have been based on community ideals, which included a reasonable level of privacy, as well as a reasonable level of openness(sp?). Jamie : netcat (nc) is the New King. : : Really, the example showing connection to a mail server is not an evil : one, but I would think it wise to provide a disclaimer, stating that "I : am sysadmin on this box" or "I have permission, so only try this on YOUR : OWN box". Not that I've heard of any criminal action against those who : test the configurations of mail servers... but just good respectful : common sense. Does anyone want to attempt a consensus, or even a sort : of vote, on this? Does anyone want to actively protest the DMCA or : Patriot Act as an organization? : : ben : : PS - speaking of how cool nc is, does anyone have any experience, or : cool scripts that use it that they could share? Seems like it would be : a more-appropriate tool for checking on your webservers, Cory; but then : again, what works, works. : : _______________________________________________ : Eug-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Let's call it an accidental feature. -- Larry Wall _______________________________________________ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
