Gee... I thought that was pretty much what I said...
I guess you(bob) put it better than I did...
another thing not mentioned, while macinosh hardware (used to atleast) be
among higher quality, its not alway the best quality, and with the PC, you do
have the option of higher quality parts (and or lower quality too...)
Jamie
On Saturday 15 November 2003 10:34 pm, Bob Miller wrote:
: T. Joseph Carter wrote:
: > Let's see what Dell has to say.
: >
: > $2824
:
: This is a fairly silly comparison. Why match every useless feature
: Steve saw fit to bundle into the G5? Instead, let's see what Apple
: would charge for a Mac that matches the box ComputerBase built for me
: in July.
:
: I needed a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. I chose a P4
: (hyperthreaded, 800 MHz FSB, 2.4GHz), 2 GB of PC3200 RAM, and an Intel
: D865PERL. (Not my first choice of motherboard, but I needed the new
: computer the same day. So for comparison, use the prices charged at
: The Macintosh Store on 8th. (-: ) I didn't need disk drives (already
: had 'em with RedHat and two years' work preinstalled), CD-ROM, DVD,
: video, sound, firewire, NIC, case, power supply, or video editing
: software.
:
: The closest thing, pricewise, in the Apple Store, is a 1.6 GHz G5.
: With 2GB RAM, it's $2945. Never mind that if I'd bought a Mac that
: day, I'd also need a new display and all new software, which is never
: free on Macs. Oh, did The Macintosh Store have G5s in stock in July?
: Might have had to settle for a G4.
:
: I paid $550. Got it in an hour.
:
: There. I've just "proven" a Mac costs 5X as much as a comparable PC. (-:
: Is my comparison any less valid than yours? (Yes, I'm aware that my
: comparison is about as valid as a SCO legal brief. But so is yours.)
:
:
: The thing is, the PC ecosystem is broad, deep and complex. There are
: five vendors competing for every niche in it, from CPU to video card
: to case to the little screws that hold the PCI cards in. The Mac
: "ecosystem" is single source from top to bottom, exactly three
: products at any time, cleverly positioned so that only the top product
: has all the useful features. When Apple screws up -- ships a
: faulty/unreliable product, can't meet demand, or misses a development
: schedule, Mac users have no alternative. PC users just buy another
: brand.
:
: One is rain forest, the other is parking lot.
:
: The other thing is, the Mac has a closed, proprietary software
: architecture. Just like Windows. More so, in fact, since Apple owns
: it from the apps to the chips. The PC, especially with Linux or *BSD,
: is infinitely diverse. You always have choices, including the choice
: to rewrite it your way. (That's why we're FOSS zealots, after all.)
:
:
: I'm glad you like your Mac and your iBook. I'm glad they work for you
: and for the other EUGLUGsters who have them. But don't for a minute
: think Apple has the only viable platform.
:
: Disclaimer: I've owned three Macs. I've worked at Apple. I first
: developed for Mac in 1985.
--
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hacking (and/or conversations with God).
-- Matt Welsh
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