IMHO the incentives lie in that company's development department,
getting greater (but false) job security by making up their own
standards... unless they, like Microsoft, can afford to define their own
choices as world standards!

BTW, Larry, you forgot to remind folks not to unplug a USB mass storage
device before unmounting it  = )

Ben


On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:28:09 -0800
Larry Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| I just recently aquired a digital camera, after doing a lot of
| homework and making sure that I had all that I needed to make it work
| correctly.
| 
| It's a CASIO EX-s2 and it mounts as a USB Mass storage device
| (yes I can keep regular files on the camera)
| 
| It took about 5 minutes to get it configured and mounted under FreeBSD
| and it will work with pretty much any OS that supports the Mass
| Storage device profile under USB (ie. any OS release after 2000 )
| 
| It stores pictures internally as .jpg so it doesn't need any fancy 
| footwork to make it
| work with non-mass-market OS's
| 
| And of course I am paying something of a premium for the ease and the 
| portability and the
| standards compliance.
| 
| A couple of months ago I spent about two days fighting with gphoto2 
| trying to get it to extract photos from some cheapie 640x480 camera 
| ($24.95 at Fred Meyer's).
| I finally gave up in disgust, took the camera back and got my refund.
| 
| What are the economic incentives to camera makers to use these 
| incompatible file transfer formats?
| 
| On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, at 01:02  PM, Linux Rocks ! wrote:
| 
| > Bob, et al.
| >     Ive compiled and installed libgphoto2, gphoto2, gtkam, all the
| >     current
| > versions (but not from CVS).
| >     I did try both of the concord entries, no joy. I also did
| >     autodetect, 
| > still
| > no joy :( I think the chipset in the camera is aox ? anyway, i'm
| > told its
| > different than the 2 listed below :(
| >     One guy on the gphoto-devel list has some code that he claims
| >     will 
| > pull the
| > data off the camera, but he hasnt provided it to me yet... been 
| > waiting a
| > couple days... I think all he did was take some simular code and 
| > modify it to
| > work with this cam... I dont know exactly though :(
| >     The camera I have looks a lot like the easy... but I guess its 
| > different
| > inside.
| >     It looks like a pretty decent little device, very small and easy
| >     to 
| > use, if
| > it had full support under linux it would be so much nicer for me 
| > though!
| >
| > and best of all, it can be aquired at many locations for ~$30 Office
| > Max had a
| > simular camera (but larger and goofy looking for $10 (afte rebate).
| > I couldnt
| > find a officedepot in this area though :( for $10 you can put one in
| > every
| > room, and glove box, backpack.... and if you loose it... no big 
| > worries!
| >
| > Jamie
| >
| >
| > On Tuesday 18 November 2003 03:50 pm, Bob Miller wrote:
| > : Linux Rocks ! wrote:
| > : > My camera:
| > : > Concord EyeQ Mini
| > :
| > : I just checked gtkam, and it has these two entries in the camera 
| > menu.
| > :
| > :   Concord Eye-Q Easy
| > :   Concord EyeQ 4330
| > :
| > : I wonder whether your camera would work as one of those.
| > :
| > : Versions:
| > :   gtkam 0.1.10
| > :   gphoto2 2.1.2
| >
| > -- 
| >> I've hacked the Xaw3d library to give you a Win95 like interface
| >and > it
| >> is named Xaw95. You can replace your Xaw3d library.
| > Oh God, this is so disgusting!
| >     -- seen on c.o.l.development.apps, about the "Win95 look-alike"
| >
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