On Thursday 04 November 2004 3:39 pm, Jacob Meuser wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 01:18:29PM -0800, Ken Barber wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 November 2004 12:29 pm, perdurabo wrote:
> > > On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:39:35 -0800, Russ Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > > One of the fundamental flaws with Windows is that most of the time,
> > > > any user logged on has administrator privileges.
> > >
> > > That's not a flaw in Windows. That's a flaw in the system
> > > administrator,
> >
> > It's a flaw in Windows.  Trying to pass the buck to system administrators
> > is -- well, passing the buck.

> what about linux distros that ship with all sorts of stuff on by default?

Yes, like Lindows, or whatever it's called now.  They've taken a lot of 
criticism (well-deserved, IMO) for their the-default-user-is-root 
configuration.  Their goal was a distro that would look and feel "just like 
Windows" so it would be easy to use.  Well, they achieved it, I guess -- 
they're a little too much "just like Windows" for my tastes!
>
> and people deride OpenBSD because they claim that there are no holes
> in a default install ... to a degree because hardly anything is enabled
> by default.

Yep, that's one of the beauties of OBSD.  By design, everything is the 
administrator's responsibilty because s/he has to turn it on before it will 
work.  Now, there is a distro that is clueful about security.

Ken
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