On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 08:05:13PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
> T. Joseph CARTER wrote:
> 
> > 1. New TiVo
> >    + $100ish for about the same capacity I have now (a little less)
> >    + It Just Works
> >    + Easy to add a new drive and connect to network
> >    - Probably can't transfer lifetime service to a new box anymore
> >    - Hacking docs are scattered/inconsistent/stale/now-404
> >    - The Peanut (The Sony series 2 seems to have died off)
> >    - Single tuner  =(
> >    - Video extraction requires Windows and is DRM'd to hell
> >    - HDTiVo?  hahaha
> >    - Cablecard TiVo?  hahaha
> 
> Mostly I agree.  Just a couple of corrections.
> 
> 1. You can buy the Sony remote from Sony's web site.  Instructions are
> available on the web for reprogramming it to match a peanut.  Now
> you're out of "It just works" territory, though.

That's in the reasonable category for It Just Works since it'd be a
relatively small part of the setup process for any device.


> 2. The HD DIRECTiVo also takes over the air ATSC input (I think).
>    However, it's a lot more expensive, and I'm not sure whether
>    it works with non-DIRECTV program guide.
> 
> >  3. MythTV
> >    Option 1, frame grabber card
> >       - Requires a noisy workstation priced around $600 
> 
> You can build a high performance PC that's quieter than a Mac.  It
> costs a bit more to add sorbothane disk drive mounts, heat pipe CPU
> coolers and oversized, undervolted fans, but it's doable.  One of my
> 2.4 GHz P4 machines is inaudible (to Anne -- everything is inaudible
> to me )-: ) and the other needs to have its stock CPU cooler replaced
> yet.

My little ASUS $300 thingy has a CPU cooler that sounds like the flight
deck of a carrier and a pretty capible 80mm fan as well.  But it was
designed to be cheap, not fast.


> >    - The combination of client and server and ... yeah, I'd lose the nice
> >      TiVo remote control for sure.
> 
> Why?  Reprogram the Sony remote (or teach MythTV its codes).

One of the WinTV cards has a very Sony-like remote, but I'd probably be
trying to run the frontend on my Mac for its big/wide screen.

The alternative is to display to a 17" LCD, which might be useful
sometimes, but is not what I'd watch TV on most often.


> We're looking at the same choices as I get ready to upgrade to HD at
> home.  I'm leaning toward an HD TiVo just because it's easier, but...

If it were still possible to transfer my lifetime service (I don't think
one can do that now that TiVo has marched everyone to series2 who is
willing to be so marched), that would be a real option.  I'm relatively
sure that the hackers know how to decrypt the video streams by now, though
I don't know if they'd share the information.  ;)

SD content can already be un-DRM'd on Windows through the DVD creation
process.  Since DVDs generally don't handle 1280x768 progressive, though,
I don't even know how one would save off HD content without DRM.

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