Allen Brown wrote:

toman wrote:

Bob Miller wrote:

Some schwag has arrived.

I have Ubuntu CDs, compliments of the Ubuntu project.  Release 5.10
("Breezy Badger").  40 copies for PC and 15 for minority
architectures.

Marsee at O'Reilly sent us multiple copies of three titles.

    Linux Desktop Pocket Guide
    Knoppix Pocket Reference
    Linux Desktop Hacks

I'll bring it all to this Thursday's clinic.



I just got a set of those as well, 10 PC, 3 64bit and 2 Mac, I think. If anyone in the Cottage Grove area wants one, please let me know. I have to say though, that I loaded Ubuntu on an older laptop of mine and was quite disappointed with it. The install was very debian, you know, ncurses based. At some point a root password got assigned, but not by me, so I have no idea what it is. The application install GUI was really primitive, maybe they're expecting users to be apt-get conversant. It couldn't find a driver for my linksys wireless card, which older versions of Suse have. All in all, for a distribution that's working that "Linux for everybody" angle it seemed like Linux for almost nobody. I think if I were to inflict a Debian variant on an unsuspecting newbie, it would be Knoppix or its progeny, because it does such a good job of autoprobing hardware, and just works. Anyway, if my Ubuntu bashing wasn't enough to disuade folks, I have a few
that are free to good homes.

J. Toman


What architecture did you install onto?  What brand?
I hear there is quite a bit of variation but that
mainstream hardware is well supported.

It's a 5 year old Vaio.

larry price wrote:

On 12/12/05, toman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It couldn't find a driver for my linksys wireless card,
which older versions of Suse have.

Valid, but remember that Ubuntu is aimed at desktops so...


In what sense? Why would they make such a restrictive distribution?

All in all, for a distribution that's
working that "Linux for
everybody" angle it seemed like Linux for almost nobody.

That hasn't been my experience.

Well, to be fair, I think that good GUI is the hardest thing to do in 
programming,
so I'm not that down on Ubuntu. I was just hoping that that's where they had 
put most
of their effort, since their mission is "linux for people". The whole install 
just felt
unpolished, and if you're trying to win hearts and minds that's the worst 
impression you
can make. YMMV.

                                                        J. Toman


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