On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:31:52PM -0800, Patrick R. Wade wrote: > Jacob Meuser wrote: > >On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 07:42:55PM -0800, Patrick R. Wade wrote: > >>Or perhaps "I really want to make Bill Gates and Steve Jobs rich for no > >>compensation and lose the right to expand on what I myself first > >>created", which IIRC was the thing that originally sent RMS off the deep > >>end with the LISP Machine. > > > > > >ah, but you see, the BSD license _does_ protect your copyright, so > >no one can deny that it was you who are the inventor. you just > >need to capitalize on that. come on, you're giving away your > >code with either license. don't complain that you not getting rich > >by giving something away. if your code is so great that it ends up > >everywhere (even if through M$'s marketing machine), then surely you > >are valuable! > > > > > > That isn't quite the part that got RMS' goat; rather, the code that was > accessible to him to extend before, went away, and took the license to > his extensions with it. Proprietarization is exactly the thing BSD > license allows.
no it doesn't. copyright law is quite clear about that. if something is released under an open license, it is always open. if this were not true, then Theo de Raadt and many other OpenBSD developers would have been sued out of existence long ago. it does allow, however, to let someone make changes, and then release _that_ without an open license. those are two totally different situations. and that brings us back to the amount of trust in the Open Source model. do you really trust code that people are not willing to release under an open license, even if it is based on once open code? do you really think MicroSoft is enhancing the BSD code they use? > > The GPL could legitimately be seen as a proprietary license, in the same > sense that a public park is not bonus nullius ; you can't set up a > homestead on it. I for my part find the world enhanced by both these > "unfreely free" things. I agree, but they are different situations entirely. the park is provided for by public funds. code is provided at private expense. > >>>IMO, most of the world's ills are due to lack of trust. > >>> > >> > >>Most of the world's lack of trust is due to bitter experience. > > > > > >then don't do things that you will end up bitter about! > > That sentence is 7 words longer than necessary. If i had the prophecy > to put it into practice i'd be happier, thinner, and wealthier than i am > today; and i suspect that's true of some other participants on this list > as well. yes, it's a tough lesson to learn, and no one is going to do protect you from it, no matter how much of a gasbag they are or how much legalese they write. -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ EUGLUG mailing list [email protected] http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
