I'll email you off list... 

Jamie

On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 06:38:23AM -0800, Brian Gallagher wrote:
> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:38:23 -0800
> From: Brian Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Wireless router follow-up
> 
> I'm talking about being inside a garage, last call.  This is way off topic!
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Brian
> 
> LinuxRocks! wrote:
> >On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 01:07:57AM -0800, Brian Gallagher wrote:
> >  
> >>Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 01:07:57 -0800
> >>From: Brian Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]>
> >>Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Wireless router follow-up
> >>
> >>Well, if its rolling.  You could always run it over here Friday.  I've 
> >>got the  floor  jack, stands, and tools.  I don't have a car, but my 
> >>brother-in-law is an excellent mechanic and I'm sure I could pester him 
> >>for a ride to the store if need be.  Its on you.
> >>    
> >
> >Well.. its rolling! I was thinking of going into town to get supplies, I 
> >may not have time to do the brakes. Its mostly the being cold that makes 
> >it sooo easy to put working on the brakes off... I figure If i get a 
> >bunch of groceries, then i can spend the whole weekend if i want fixing 
> >the brakes...
> >
> >It looks like the router i hooked up today isnt playing very nice, so 
> >thats another excuse not to work on the brakes tommorow. Wow, i wonder 
> >how long i can put it off!
> >
> >Jamie
> >
> >  
> >>LinuxRocks! wrote:
> >>    
> >>>On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 03:50:35PM -0800, Brian Gallagher wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >>>>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:50:35 -0800
> >>>>From: Brian Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]>
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Wireless router follow-up
> >>>>
> >>>>I've done some backyard mechanics, I know what you mean...get out the 
> >>>>Chilton's!
> >>>>   
> >>>>        
> >>>heh... I wish it was backyard... its more like backwoods! (im about 15 
> >>>miles from the nearest parts store!) I'f I mess something up, im so 
> >>>screwed!
> >>>
> >>>Jamie
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>      
> >>>>Windoz and braking...priceless!
> >>>>
> >>>>Good Luck,
> >>>>
> >>>>Brian
> >>>>
> >>>>LinuxRocks! wrote:
> >>>>   
> >>>>        
> >>>>>You'd be surprised how easy it is... There are step by step tutorials 
> >>>>>(that make it much easier) google or linked from wikipedia, and 
> >>>>>google, and too many forums to list. 
> >>>>>I have to change the brake pads (front only) today, and it looks like 
> >>>>>it wont break 40 degrees outside... now that will be difficult... 
> >>>>>infact, might not happen till tommorow! 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jamie
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 12:06:24PM -0800, Brian Gallagher wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:06:24 -0800
> >>>>>>From: Brian Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Wireless router follow-up
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Its Greek to me, but I'm cataloging our dialog as a starting point 
> >>>>>>for, what looks like, a long Winter!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Brian
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>LinuxRocks! wrote:
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>Dude... wanna get WET?
> >>>>>>>Wireless Ethernet Bridge (WET): Similar to client mode, it allows 
> >>>>>>>wired computers to connect wirelessly. This mode however allows 
> >>>>>>>computers to be on the same subnet as the access point.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Jamie
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 11:20:33AM -0800, Brian Gallagher wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>              
> >>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:20:33 -0800
> >>>>>>>>From: Brian Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>>To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Wireless router follow-up
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Jamie
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Thanks for getting back, thought I burned everyone's ears off 
> >>>>>>>>yesterday.  Funny you should mention the car, now I will be looking 
> >>>>>>>>to see if birds are flying by.  I talked to my house mate and we 
> >>>>>>>>are going to start with the antenna, Garl suggested.  I will pass 
> >>>>>>>>along the update info.  We may end up at the bridge that, Ben 
> >>>>>>>>talked about.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Computing can be an expensive hobby!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Brian
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>LinuxRocks! wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>>                
> >>>>>>>>>On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 08:06:14AM -0800, Brian Gallagher wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:06:14 -0800
> >>>>>>>>>>From: Brian Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>>>>To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Eug-lug] Wireless router follow-up
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>I don't think the wired solution, as Bob suggested, is going to 
> >>>>>>>>>>happen (just my gut feeling.)  A wired solution is what I had in 
> >>>>>>>>>>mind 
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>>from the beginning (over a year ago.)  I say this because (A) I 
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>>didn't want people to think I'm not using my head here and (B) 
> >>>>>>>>>>liability issues make that solution non-viable.  As it turns out 
> >>>>>>>>>>the wired/wireless solutions are about the same cost when I start 
> >>>>>>>>>>to factor in all the little parts I would need on top of the 
> >>>>>>>>>>cable, with a finger on the scale for liability issues.  I 
> >>>>>>>>>>acknowledge that a wired solution would be very simple and 
> >>>>>>>>>>secure, but it looks like I have to go out on the limb, not down 
> >>>>>>>>>>to the ground.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>As I have said before, here is what I know about wireless...not 
> >>>>>>>>>>much! So I am looking for some advice about wireless in general.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Background: this wireless setup worked for most of the year, or 
> >>>>>>>>>>so, of use.  In my gyrations of attempting to learn about 
> >>>>>>>>>>wireless I have been testing various cards, OS's, computers, and 
> >>>>>>>>>>locations, so I hadn't noticed why my connectivity was faltering.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>Funny thing about wireless networking, theres lots of stuff that 
> >>>>>>>>>can interfere with it that you simply cannot see. It can be 
> >>>>>>>>>working fine, then your neighbor buys a new car, parks it in the 
> >>>>>>>>>garage (instead of the street) and poof, network disapears! you 
> >>>>>>>>>can have a great signal, then take 2 steps, and have none. You can 
> >>>>>>>>>have a perfect signal one day, the next its all crazy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>>Present: at my preferred location (P) I get a signal strength of 
> >>>>>>>>>>no more then 25% and at the garage location (G) I get a signal of 
> >>>>>>>>>>75%. I have noted that I get dropped from G and my house mate 
> >>>>>>>>>>says the he has been experiencing drop recently.  The router 
> >>>>>>>>>>looks very similar to the WRT54GL, probably an earlier version.  
> >>>>>>>>>>I note that I can get on late / early with no problem, with 
> >>>>>>>>>>business hours being the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>can you check the router out, on the bottom of it, it will says 
> >>>>>>>>>what it is (wrt54g/wrt54gs/wrt54gl, and version number) also check 
> >>>>>>>>>the first 4 letters of its serial number, and check that wikipedia 
> >>>>>>>>>link to confirm what version it is... If you can upgrade the 
> >>>>>>>>>router to dd-wrt, or even hyperwrt, then you can turn up the 
> >>>>>>>>>xmitter, and that might be just enough to do what you need w/out 
> >>>>>>>>>buying anything new.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>>Question: is it reasonable that under normal conditions of three 
> >>>>>>>>>>users, heavy usage, and good signal I should not be getting 
> >>>>>>>>>>dropped?  That is, can a router of this type handle three 
> >>>>>>>>>>simultaneous sessions indefinitely?  It has been suggested that 
> >>>>>>>>>>the router is getting "tired" after being on for years.  I am 
> >>>>>>>>>>going to offer to replace the router with the WRT54GL (65.74 @ 
> >>>>>>>>>>mwave.com) and I don't want to find that the problem is something 
> >>>>>>>>>>down the Comcast stream that I can't do anything about.  Oh, and 
> >>>>>>>>>>did I mention that Xbox live is in the mix?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>>>>          
> >>>>>>>>>>               
> >>>>>>>>>>                    
> >>>>>>>>>That doesnt sound resonable to me... You should be albe to handle 
> >>>>>>>>>dozens of users w/out issue.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Jamie
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>   
> >>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>             
> >>>>>>>>>                  
> >>>>>>>>>>Sorry for the long winded email, but my objective is to turn 
> >>>>>>>>>>another corner in my OSS quest.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Brian
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