My experience with this is charging the 12V battery bank down at
my storage container (no grid power) from the Sevcon 128V/12V
DC-DC converter in my Rabbit.  I also happen to have a 140W
mod-sine inverter to run the fluorescent lights (the standard
long tube 40W type, 2 of them) hooked up to the 12V battery bank.
On the one or two occasions that I've had both DC-DC converter
and the inverter going at the same time, the fluorescents really
start to flicker, about 1 to 2Hz or so.  Nothing smoked, but I
have to ask myself whether that phenomena is doing the
electronics any good, especially if one were to have it going on
a long-term basis.

Chuck Hursch
Larkspur, CA
www.geocities.com/nbeaa

----- Original Message -----
From: Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ev discussion list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: 120 VDC Inverter


> Will a converter-inverter arrangement work. Since 12VDC -
120VAC is
> available in the market, and a DC-DC converter must also be
available, why
> not use them in series.
>
> Prasad
> www.geocities.com/aquariangenius
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: 120 VDC Inverter
>
>
> > Jim Coate wrote:
> > > So with my 176 volt pack I just need to add a FET to turn
it on/off
> > > at 60 Hz to make a crude square wave inverter?
> >
> > Rod Hower replied:
> > > You'll need at least 2 FETs, or you could use 4... your
standard
> > > H-bridge... Or you can replace Fet's 3 and 4 with
capacitors
> > > and pulse Fet 1 and 2 complimentary (make sure you have
some dead
> > > time in between turning one on and the other off. If you
use IGBT's
> > > make sure you have anti-parallel diodes on every device.
> >
> > The simplest inverter is probably just an H-bridge (4
semiconductor
> > switches). It intrinsically delivers a square wave. You'll
want some
> > inductance in series with the load (which can be the motor
itself if you
> > only use it for driving motors). You'll also need some
capacitance to
> > filter the sharp edges and voltage spikes. The larger the L
and C values
> > you can stand, the closer the output can approach a sinewave.
> >
> > If you use only 2 switches with 2 series capacitors for the
other two
> > legs, the capacitors have to be HUGE at 60 Hz and high power
levels.
> > But, it has the advantage of being intrinsically
current-limited. The
> > capacitors also guarantee no DC offset.
> >
> > If the DC input voltage happens to be different that the peak
AC output
> > voltage, you'll need an autotransformer (or transformer if
isolation is
> > also needed). At 60 Hz, a transformer will be big and heavy.
The size of
> > an autotransformer is proportional to the voltage difference
it needs to
> > provide; if you only need to boost the AC output voltage 10%,
the
> > autotransformer is 10% of the weight of a transformer.
> > --
> > Lee A. Hart                Ring the bells that still can ring
> > 814 8th Ave. N.            Forget your perfect offering
> > Sartell, MN 56377 USA      There is a crack in everything
> > leeahart_at_earthlink.net  That's how the light gets in -
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> >

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