I have a few points to make about this, which anyone else who's wasting brain 
cycles on this topic is probably already thinking...

First of all, inventors and corporations *do* publish specifics to the public --
 they're called "patents."  If what Tilley has developed is as revolutionary as 
he claims, then he richly deserves a patent for it, and the protection that 
patent would provide. If he intends to sell this "over-unity" engine or cars 
built from it, someone is going to buy one and reverse-engineer it. He needs 
the law on his side to prevent him from others profiting from his work.  Both 
Kamen and [ostensibly] Tilley worked for a long time on a product in secret, 
and once they were ready they revealed its existance to the public. Once Kamen 
revealed his product, he certainly *did* give a satisfactory level of detail on 
how it works -- embedded computers and gyros.  No mystery there, just good 
engineering (to what end, can be debated elsewhere).  I'd like to see a 
similarly basic synopsis from Tilley et al. Don't tell us everything, just 
don't tell us it's magic.

Second, can anyone tell from the pictures what type/size/etc of motor they're 
putting in the car by its appearance? Totally ignoring the issue of how he's 
keeping the batteries charged, can anyone see anything wrong with his claimed 
performance figures, based on voltage and the motor?  I'm not so good on the 
math here.

Also .... um, who is this Tilley guy?  Google web and usenet searches yield 
almost no relevant information. This guy has never been active in online 
discussions, and is apparently isn't into the EV community...  Has anyone heard 
of this guy before?


Is there anyone who can attend this demonstration, with the intent of bringing 
a [known-good] meter and measuring his battery voltages after the run? Doubt 
he'll let anyone get that close but it's worth a try...


  --Chris





Quoting Rod Hower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Here's my email to Carl....
> Carl,
> 
> Is your web page an April fools day joke?  It's only August.
> If there is any merit to your vehicle why don't you post some
> information regarding the device that is keeping the batteries charged.
> 
> Rod
> hower.iwarp.com/photo.html
> 
> Here's their response...
> 
> Good Day:
> 
> Carl Tilley forwarded me your message as I tend to handle  the
> communications.
> 
> Sir, this is far from a joke and we will publicly demonstrate the
> reality of this on Saturday, September 7th at the Nashville
> Superspeedway as indicated on our website.....we'd be more than
> glad to have you there to witness the distance and speed validation
> testing.
> 
> As for publishing specifics on the internet, now really .... what purpose
> would that serve other than to give away what Carl has spent some
> 17 years perfecting ?  Can you cite an instance where any corporation
> discloses their newest technologies in such a manner ... I think not. Look
> at the Segway .... there was speculation over what it would be for a few
> years, should Dean Kamen have published his technology openly ? Carl's
> situation is no different.
> 
> I realize there are many of you out there that are willing to dismiss this
> "potential" out of hand, after all I too would agree that there have been
> any number of "claims" made about less-than-true devices for a good
> many years. The problem is all those false stories have hindered the
> ability of people to remain open minded.
> 
> I can assure you, with the time and money invested and an open invitation
> to witness the events at the Superspeedway we believe in what we are doing.
> Either that our we are the most foolish people you've ever come across.....
> and I can assure you that is NOT the case.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Douglas C. Littlefield
> Director - Tilley Foundation Inc.
> 
> 

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