I can't believe so few get my point.

Frequency input to induction motor, as *separate* single parameter
is under *your* control independent of other variables (voltages)
you apply to the motor because commutator is external (solid state).

Not the case for brushed DC motor - *you* don't apply frequency to them.
they take care of it with commutator.

This is the difference.

I get impression that instead of delivering useful information
to the list some people almost waiting to catch errors and prove others
wrong or inaccurate.

I know it's not an intent but makes me to want to post less and less.

Victor

Lee Hart wrote:
> 
> Victor Tikhonov wrote:
> 
> > Fine. All these details are obscuring my point that there is
> > a variable - frequency - applicable to AC motors only.
> 
> How about a "brushless DC" motor, like a computer fan? They are actually
> AC motors, with an electronic commutator. There is no frequency input,
> and they run at a speed determined by load and the voltage applied.
> 
> How about the induction motors in your furnace, window fan, or ceiling
> fan? They all run on fixed 60 Hz AC (no frequency control), yet are
> variable speed just by varying the voltage to them.
> 
> Frequency applies to DC motors, too. The coils all have AC or pulsating
> DC flowing in them, produced by the commutator (mechanical or
> electronic). Higher frequencies = higher speeds. Unipolar stepper
> motors, for example; coil current is pulsating DC (one polarity), and
> the repetition rate determines speed.
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